Ronaldo

Yep.

Refusing to play wide right, basically.

Dyer was always like that though, arguing to the point of restraint on the pitch with our vice-captain twice (that was know of). Never had any respect for authority. Although the pre-Boro incident couldn't have helped matters.

I wouldn't want either of them starting in the premiership.

Not by much.

Definetely didn't get Bobby the sack like. I got the impression going into the 04-05 season that if we didn't start well he'd be gone and we didn't.

Wouldn't want him here.

Precisely. And they could easily go down.

Which is why I said total.

Didn't help himself with his pissy attitude on and off the pitch. The Bowyer thing was coming for years.

7 or 8 in total I think.

Dorrans.

Thought it was mutual consent.

should be useful in a team that got relegated then? edit: as you said however i won't cry if we got a good price for him.. and neither if we keep him. Was talking about Kevin Davies mate. Is that what we really want for the next 10 years btw?

A useful player in a team that avoided relegation narrowly last season and probably this.

That would be incredible, yeah.

It'll never be the same, just like Beckford will never be Cole, Nolan will never be Rob Lee and Hughton will never be KK. No reason we shouldn't enjoy it and show the players and everyone else how much it means to the city.

At us? I don't really see any reason why we did it in 92-93 but shouldn't repeat it now. These set of players, especially in defence are a lot more talented than the class of 93 but in fairness they've shown a lot of character in the last 6 months.

Why not, just for a laugh.

I wouldn't be adverse to giving Hector Cuper a go, providing his english has improved in the last 6 years.

Well all want him to do well. But i don't think i'm the only one on this board who now goes into away games hoping that we don't take the lead early.

Plenty of it, clearly.

On the whole, 'B' list Dutch and German managers seem to be streets ahead in tactics, planning and organisation compared to their British counterparts. Aye, exactly, think Mclaren might of learnt a bit with Twente, seems to of taken them to the next level which is a very good achievement, think he could turn our to become a very good manager. Strange to think that we've never appointed a manager from abroad. Would love this to be the case becasue there are some excellent manager out there who im sure would love to manage at a premier league club with 50k turning up every week, shame it wont happen at all. McLaren's doing very well with Twente, in fact they're top of the league atm. i'd take him over Hughton too. just goes to show how provincial our club have been in terms of never recruiting directly from abroad, ie a manager at an overseas club. the only foreigners we'd have were managing in the UK and actually not very good. I suppose robson is the closest, though he had left PSV for the FA by the time we approached him. Precisely, really irks me how we didnt have the foresight like Liverpool to look outside these shores. There are literally only 3 british manager i'd have at this club, O'Neil, Mclaren and Hughes, the rest are miles behind there foreign counterparts, even putting Hughes with the other 2 is stretching it a bit. Unfortunately this is all a pipe dream cant see us going foriegn, my guess would be Ron Atkinson shoudl Hughton leave. Ferguson?

Not very.

That'll do for the weekend bets.