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I'd assume so. But he started playing his best football roughly about the time Wise left.

He has 4 goals in 18 does Carroll. EDIT: 15 starts, fair enough. Carroll has 5 assists too. And? Mclean has 6.

Khizanishvili was playing, end of pattern.

He has 4 goals in 18 does Carroll. EDIT: 15 starts, fair enough.

It's not imo. But it's better than Carroll's record.

I may just go to Leicester away.

3 year contract? You're out by 18 months mate.

He definetly wont struggle in the championship. But we've all seen the massive gap between it and the top league.

Beckford is neccessarily the cheaper option. We'll lose money on both. But as I said, more confident on Harewood getting us there.

I'm an awful lot more confident about Harewood getting those goals. I also think Beckford could have a negative effect on morale. EDIT: And age isn't a factor is the Harewood - Beckford debate as both will be obsolete when we get promoted.

Lets have a wager IF we do sign Beckford and if he scores more than 10 goals in the Championship this season you delete your N-O account for good, if he scores 10 or less I will delete mine. Why would I do that? I think Beckford is capable of 10 goals. Hardly beyond the realms of possibility that he'll get 11.

Kadar in particular is a promising player but those descriptions of him and Carroll are laughable.

Gutted? Give me a break.

Shut up man Jayson, they've been saying the same about him all season.

Theyre in denial Beckford looks to be able to create much more on his own, Harewood is a tap it in man. Or a get through on goal 1v1 man at best. Beckfords a tap it in man, 1v1 man, long range super goals man, probably gonna be as good as shearer man. Far more potential and much more exciting. In denial over what?

Where's the contradiction? I think that Beckford would get 10 between now and May. I know that Harewood would achieve that figure.

Harewood is 30 actually, and is proven goalscorer in the championship. Neither will cut it at premiership level and we should be looking further than these two. What makes this debate funnier is the concensus amongst the Leeds fans that I know. Their attitude is that they have one and a half feet in the championship and for that reason Beckford isn't the answer long-term. They'd be happy to see him go.

If he came back tomorrow and started 10 games for us, how many do you think he'd score? Wager a guess at 4.

He's been poor overall and not good enough to get himself a transfer but I thought he showed some excellent touches last night.

Xisco played well last night to be fair to him.

Aye, instead lets waste what little money the chariman will release on the good old fashioned Newcastle method - a 30something+ hasbeen that will score a couple now and then but will be s***, slow and lack effort in every other department. Did I once say that Harewood was my first choice?

as long as he scpores a few though, thats ok isnt it? harewood got anihilated, but scored a few, and you want us to buy him? As opposed to Beckford, yeah I do. Missed the point again. Harewood got anihilated for being a generally poor player on the ball and not seeming to put the effort in, Beckford is exactly the same.

Can't wait to see what you of Beckford, he'll get absolutely anihilated on this board.

you base 99% of your debates on what may be man. preiciting who would or wouldnt succeed in this leage/the prem, and how many they would get. 'beckford is a 10 goal a season man in prem' for example. That's an opinion, without evidence we defer to them. In this case we have solid evidence that one player will give us what need, and no evidence whatsoever for the other.

Yes but would you pay that now to bring Harewood in on a permanent basis? As opposed to bringing in Beckford for £2M+, yes.