Ronaldo

think we'll draw

We should consider loaning Martins out to a side in Italy should we get relegated

I think Robert had a lot of confidence in his ability but his assists rate suggest he wasn't really selfish at all. I remember him putting it on a place for Acuna at Goodison when 99% of players would have had a go themselves

It won't soften the blow in the slightest, and there'll be a piece of you fuming about the bet if we stay up. I don't know how people can bet against their own team, I did it once, never again. if we stay up I wont give a s**** about the money, i'll be too busy enjoying the best day of my life I have £12 on Chelsea, Gers, Celtic, Barca, Arsenal and Pool, return of about £185 £10 on all the above plus West Ham, and Blackburn for a return of about £650, cant be arsed to check that one and of course £300 for us to go down which will get me a return of £530 should it happen And the prize for the biggest mercenary b****** so far goes to Ronaldo! You're a f***ing disgrace, and don't give me that bollocks that "the money will soften the blow"!!! A true supporter of NUFC could never hope to profit from our relegation. it's costing me in the region of £200 to get the the Villa game tomorrow, probably to see us get relegated. Forgive me if I try to cover my own back should the worst happen £200? Are you hiring your own chauffeur driven Rolls Royce? And no I won't forgive you, or anyone else, who looks to profit from our relegation. The other lad was right, you're a f***ing disgrace! And don't let too many of the lads at the game know you've backed us to go down, you might end up getting a good kicking. get a grip you do realise that the bet will have no effect on the outcome of the game and if he wins its not like he will be taking the winnings out of next seasons transfer budget. zero loyalty, i've missed about 12 home games in 16 years mate. I'm essentially spending over £500 on nufc this weekend and hoping that i never see a penny of it again

It won't soften the blow in the slightest, and there'll be a piece of you fuming about the bet if we stay up. I don't know how people can bet against their own team, I did it once, never again. if we stay up I wont give a s**** about the money, i'll be too busy enjoying the best day of my life I have £12 on Chelsea, Gers, Celtic, Barca, Arsenal and Pool, return of about £185 £10 on all the above plus West Ham, and Blackburn for a return of about £650, cant be arsed to check that one and of course £300 for us to go down which will get me a return of £530 should it happen And the prize for the biggest mercenary b****** so far goes to Ronaldo! You're a f***ing disgrace, and don't give me that bollocks that "the money will soften the blow"!!! A true supporter of NUFC could never hope to profit from our relegation. it's costing me in the region of £200 to get the the Villa game tomorrow, probably to see us get relegated. Forgive me if I try to cover my own back should the worst happen £200? Are you hiring your own chauffeur driven Roles Royce? And no I won't forgive you, or anyone else, who looks to profit from our relegation. The other lad was right, you're a f***ing disgrace! And don't let too many of the lads at the game know you've backed us to go down, you might end up getting a good kicking. What a tool. Give over man. Giving the chance it's obvious Ronaldo would rather loose the £300 bet and us to stay up. I take it your travelling to Villa tomorrow aswell ?

It won't soften the blow in the slightest, and there'll be a piece of you fuming about the bet if we stay up. I don't know how people can bet against their own team, I did it once, never again. if we stay up I wont give a s**** about the money, i'll be too busy enjoying the best day of my life I have £12 on Chelsea, Gers, Celtic, Barca, Arsenal and Pool, return of about £185 £10 on all the above plus West Ham, and Blackburn for a return of about £650, cant be arsed to check that one and of course £300 for us to go down which will get me a return of £530 should it happen And the prize for the biggest mercenary b****** so far goes to Ronaldo! You're a f***ing disgrace, and don't give me that bollocks that "the money will soften the blow"!!! A true supporter of NUFC could never hope to profit from our relegation. We have all gathered from your posts you know f*** all about football and now you have expressed zero loyalty. Shameful. says the boy who thinks Owen is better than Van Persie

he's all ego, could easily have gotten sent off against Bolton when we were already down to just 2 fit midfielders

It won't soften the blow in the slightest, and there'll be a piece of you fuming about the bet if we stay up. I don't know how people can bet against their own team, I did it once, never again. if we stay up I wont give a s**** about the money, i'll be too busy enjoying the best day of my life I have £12 on Chelsea, Gers, Celtic, Barca, Arsenal and Pool, return of about £185 £10 on all the above plus West Ham, and Blackburn for a return of about £650, cant be arsed to check that one and of course £300 for us to go down which will get me a return of £530 should it happen And the prize for the biggest mercenary b****** so far goes to Ronaldo! You're a f***ing disgrace, and don't give me that bollocks that "the money will soften the blow"!!! A true supporter of NUFC could never hope to profit from our relegation. it's costing me in the region of £200 to get the the Villa game tomorrow, probably to see us get relegated. Forgive me if I try to cover my own back should the worst happen

Well of course he was never guaranteed a start for them when he had the best player in the world in his position in front of him for most of his career. And for the term "squad filler" I'd rate him in his prime higher than the "squad fillers" now such as Fletcher. Fletcher can at least play a bit of football and make an impression going forward That was never Butt's job though so why make such a comment? you cant honestly tell me that any midfielder in Man United's team isn't expected to be able to play a little football, which is why he bought Veron, and later got rid of Butt at 29

Well of course he was never guaranteed a start for them when he had the best player in the world in his position in front of him for most of his career. And for the term "squad filler" I'd rate him in his prime higher than the "squad fillers" now such as Fletcher. Fletcher can at least play a bit of football and make an impression going forward

Butt is living off the back of his Manchester United days, yet he was never even a guarenteed started for them, he was one of Fergie's squad fillers who could come in and do a job in the holding role. Yet the media talk about him like a Giggs or Scholes, he was never anything close to their calibre. He's been awful all season for us, no engine, non-existant athleticism, horrific passing, mis-timed tackling that's cost us a stupid number of points Absolute disgrace to the shirt, and as I've said before, if he's a nailed-on starter next season i'll sell my season ticket

In another life Robert would have made one hell of a striker, his finishing was absolutely clinical

Using the same logic, would you say that Lampard is a better midfielder than Xavi? I'd certainly rather have Lampard in my team tbh Hmm...it's your opinion Let's take this further then. Would you say that Lampard has been a better midfielder for Chelsea than Zinedine Zidane was for Madrid, given that Lampard for Chelsea has double the goals and assists Zidane has in the same number of games for Madrid? personally don't agree he'd perform in any team either - xavi for spain compared to lampard for england as the most obvious example xavi's a player who dictates the way a game is played, lampard is not although he does have other strengths of course Not just disagreeing for the sake of it mate but I've rarely seen Lampard on a pitch this season without him bossing the game tbh

Using the same logic, would you say that Lampard is a better midfielder than Xavi? I'd certainly rather have Lampard in my team tbh Hmm...it's your opinion Let's take this further then. Would you say that Lampard has been a better midfielder for Chelsea than Zinedine Zidane was for Madrid, given that Lampard for Chelsea has double the goals and assists Zidane has in the same number of games for Madrid? Zidane is an exception, he's down as one of the best players of all time With wingers it's different though, they're judged soely on what they can create in the final third.

Lampard would excel in any team tbh, the best midfielder in the world for me

Using the same logic, would you say that Lampard is a better midfielder than Xavi? I'd certainly rather have Lampard in my team tbh

Like what Ginola did with Spurs, really. not really

Viduka for all his lack of workrate and mobility is an absolutely sterling footballer. Put him in any team and he could be the difference, our best finisher and most skillfull player by a country mile. He's got redeeming features that Owen does not

Robert, in a lesser team, scored more goals and created more. He basically transformed an average team into a good one with his magnificent productivity

said this back in the summer, another player gone and not replaced

the question is, who was the best winger? I've seen natural ability used more than once in this thread as a reason why Ginola was better, it doesn't tell half the story

They all have, I agree. But Viduka brings a hell of a lot more to the team than Owen, and Duff at least tries every now and again Owen's supposed to be our captain man, he's a fucking disgrace

it always is. Everytime he's quoted he never mentions NUFC. He just defends himself and his ridiculously overrated goal record programme notes to a huge game and he whinges on about his 'conversion rate' when was this? programme notes to the boro game "Though I was upset and felt that he [shearer] was wrong – only last week the press pointed out that, even though I had only scored eight league goals this season, my conversion ratio was the best in the Premier League – what I can't fault is the way he handled the situation: strong, up front and honest. Just the way a top manager should be. " and before the pompey game: "Stats are there and people will say eight games and all that. But one of the games, I came off after two minutes, I did my ankle, the next one, I came on for 10 minutes coming back. "You can straight away narrow it down to five or six games before you even start. " came off after 2 minutes eh? It was 19 minutes actually the next one, you came on for 10 minutes did you? Funny, because I watched the Hull game and you started the game and played a full 73 minutes lying c***

in terms of natural ability, Jay-Jay Okocha was better than Didier Drogba, does that make him a better player?

he didn't mean the clubs player of the year....he meant the national award, don't you remember............like giggsy just won( ) Even better credentials that award like, f***ing hell Ginola's goal record and productivity dont even compare to Robert's man, honestly, how can you people have such short memories? We dont, we just possibly have a different definition of what 'better' is. Ginola is a better footballer than Robert. Robert was a better footballer for Newcastle than Ginola. Thats how I see it. Level playing field:Ginola. fair enough