Ronaldo

Because we don't bum an average player just because he's come through the youth system? Taylor should think himself lucky he's the local lad who came through the academy because that's what has stopped most getting on his back inside of the ground. So why do people rate Taylor as a prospect, but not Ramage? Because Ramage is a Champion standard defender at best, Taylor on the other hand looked a player that was rough around the edges but could turn out to be a decent player when he first came on the scene, yet here we are 100+ games later and he looks no better, in fact we've discovered that he's thick as s*** and has no sort of footballing brain at all. People still hope he's going to turn into the player they thought, that's why they don't get on his back. I think you're making too many assumptions about WHY people have the opinions they have. I don't favour players because they're from Newcastle, never have, and i'm sure alot of people that have the same views as me aren't that biased either. First and foremost when judging a young player i look at his attributes, not his performances, and i see positive things in Taylor - firstly his aerial ability, he's our biggest danger at set pieces - yes he sometimes loses his man when defending, BUT this is to be expected of a young player, he's reasonably fast(not lightening ofcourse), he's strong physically(i've seen him bully Drogba of all people out of a game), and i have seen improvement in his positioning and maturity(ie not flying into tackles as much). I think he has good potential, but i also think he's not going to fulfill it as long as our team is so unorganized and unsettled - NO young player would fulfill their potential in our current team. Funnily enough I look at attributes too, I see that Taylor isn't particularly fast, isn't as strong as you would expect for someone his size, he doesn't read the game very well and often gets caught out by strikers with a superior footballing brain, he also has little passing ability which means his best form of distribution is the big boot up field. I don't rate him any higher than the likes of Dawson who most laugh at on here. He's not particularly slow, he certainly isn't weak, reading the game is something you gain with experience, and how old are these strikers with "superior footballing brains"? 22? I never said he was weak, I said he's not as strong for someone his size, how often do you see him physically dominate and bully strikers? As for players having footballing brains, it's true that you learn from experience in this department but you're wrong in suggesting young players can't have one now, plenty of young players in the league have footballing brains. He's an average player who may improve, unless he does improve then we should be looking for better because he wouldn't get a look in in the first teams of clubs pushing for the Uefa cup. yep, and to be honest he didn't bully Drogba at all, he simply frustrated him by sticking to him by glue which striker bullied Taylor in November? oh yeah Kenwyne Jones

absolutely

you're mad

Drogba? what

if we're talking greatest, most ability then it has to be Pedro

My dad sat in the box right next to Sir Bobby for the Birmingham game. During a post-match conversation the subject of the best player he ever managed came up and I was very pleased to hear him say the 20 year old from Brazil, said he had a fantastic attitude to training and his body let him down he'll be missed by me and anyone who appreciates football, and fuck anyone who thinks Shearer was better

Im not trying to WUM. I'd respect the guy a hell of a lot more had he not thrown it away way too early. I mean he's only 31 years old. A lot of injuries yes but just look at him ffs... look at the pictures of him from the summer, when he was working for hours and hours everyday to game himself back into shape to play the game he loves Good for him. Doesnt bring time back though does it? Could've been even more. you're trying to spin so it's his fault, it's unfair

Im not trying to WUM. I'd respect the guy a hell of a lot more had he not thrown it away way too early. I mean he's only 31 years old. A lot of injuries yes but just look at him ffs... look at the pictures of him from the summer, when he was working for hours and hours everyday to game himself back into shape to play the game he loves

the guy has more muscle in his wang than you

time to hit the Jack

who hasn't done 100mph on a 70 limit for fuck sake, the limit on the A19 is ridiculous anyway

you actually consider 15 game a season Woodgate a component of a team's spine?

Have you been watching him for Blackburn? yes I have and yes he has been good for Blackburn. But I was referring to his performace for Englad though. If Bently wants to be compared to Beckham, he needs to consistently perform for England and not just against the likes of Switzerland. you said 'don't see what the big deal is with Bentley.' His performances for Blackburn this season and last should explain the current hype

a lot of horrendous games you mean, he's been a fucking liability this season

Carr was at fault for the first as much as Given and gave the ball away for the second, i'm a little more than annoyed at him

more assertive than Shay but far too many mistakes, no thanks

worse than Paul cunting Dalglish

has a face you want to go 'hip to be square' on

he's had long enough for me to say he's the worst f****** striker ive ever seen in black and white

agreed, Taylor is absolute dogshite, if he was from 'down south' his windows would have been pelted several times by now I thought he was from down south? It's hard to single out one when the majority of them - I only exclude Milner - were truly shocking. Taylor has been s*** without criticism for a long time now I agree with you about him being s***, but your constant thing about him being free of all criticism really grinds on me. It's bullshit. I can't remember a time here where he hasn't been criticised. the forum aside, people actually seem to believe he's a good defender

agreed, Taylor is absolute dogshite, if he was from 'down south' his windows would have been pelted several times by now I thought he was from down south? It's hard to single out one when the majority of them - I only exclude Milner - were truly shocking. Taylor has been shit without criticism for a long time now

agreed, Taylor is absolute dogshite, if he was from 'down south' his windows would have been pelted several times by now

Duff? are you mad, fastest player in the prem? he was quick enough but........

Wow ... someone else also feels Duff has been crap. The amount of times he dwells on the ball when he should pass it quickly or cross it first time is terrible. He has ruined a lot of our better attacking moves due to this and also put us under unnecessary pressure. Why he tries to dribble out of tight prerssure is beyond me, especially as he is weak as piss and will only fall over under the slightest bit of pressure. in fairness to Duff he's got what to aim for exactly, Smith? and lets not forget his fat irish prick of a partner on the left flank Get it into a dangerous area and anything could happen. Surely better than continuously losing the ball right? he didn't though, that's harsh on Duff