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5th, 8th, 7th, 7th, 6th.

You know they'd just finished 8th in the Championship when he left there, right? I know, but you missed the point. He set the foundation and built for the long-term, do you think it was Rodgers who built that PL side? Who made them who they were? Who took them to 8th in the Championship for nothing? He's a man that doesn't just makes plan for his team, he makes a plan for the long-term for the whole club, insisting in facility and youth improvements throughout the structure. I didn't miss the point, I just wasn't sure if you actually knew the fact. Anyway, I do think that Rodgers made them a PL side with his style of football.

You know they'd just finished 8th in the Championship when he left there, right?

When people completely ignore how s*** Wigan as a club is. And the resources. Won a cup. With Wigan. "s***". Total revisionism Nobody said they were shit considering their resources, like. They were shit in context, though.

Since when does the 'decency' of the football negate the fact a team was losing games home and away from August to April?

They constantly looked like getting relegated, survived on the last day twice and then finally went down. They were shit.

Well said. Proud of you, man.

Jagielka's played 36 times this season, like.

I never said Martinez wasn't attacking, I just think his Wigan side were a pile of shite who consistently failed to show any class throughout each season and survived by the skin of their bollocks by beating lowly teams already on the beach come April/May. The fact they passed it in nice triangles doesn't make their football correct, for me, anyway.

You shouldn't need to take risks of you're controlling the game but that's besides the point. It demonstrated that he had instilled a mentality in them, not to panic when under pressure and to keep the ball and find the spaces with good movement and a bit of cohesion, which personally I admired Also known as slowing down play, allowing your opponent to reset into their defensive formation, losing any advantage you might have had by hitting them during their transition phase. Aye, fucking idiots, they should have just booted it up to Shola. Keegan didn't boot it up to Shola, nor was he remotely concerned with 'controlling' the midfield. Scare the shit out of the opposition, score goals and you'll control the game.

It shouldn't. What we've got now is far worse.

Link ? Best off asking Tooj but I think it was a radio interview I heard around 2-3 years ago.

Playing the game the right way is taking risks and scoring goals, not keeping intricate possession.

Sake.

Whatever the decision is, finishing 10th or 11th probably won't make a hint of a difference.

Fucking planning commission... Northumberland County Council having a laugh by the sounds of it.

Not true IMO, Wigan often looked very good but just ended up losing a lot.

Ideal world, yeah.

Anything other than Chelsea sounds good to me. Though I certainly don't want Bayern in there either.

It basically shows daft 80s and 90s TV movies. They're usually really harmless fun and humorous completely by accident.

Coentrao, Modric and Pepe for me.

Sir Les as manager ffs. Club legend but I wouldn't fancy him to spell his name right.

Like a film I saw on one of those movies4men channels loosely based on Red Riding Hood where the main character (and her grandma) were savagely raped.

One thing I will say, Martinez never had Wigan looking like a PL side, so he isn't what he's being made out to be. Moyes is easily the more proven manager. In an ideal world you'd want someone more attacking but I'm not convinced Martinez is any sort of Keegan replica as some would have you believe.

Should be over for Bayern, like. Be a bloody good game next week.