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the club responded... How's it Keegan that's hiding the truth?

It was about a year ago today Alan Shearer taught the team to play They'd been going in an out of style they were guaranteed to make you cry So may I introduce to you The act you've known for all these years, Alan Shearer's show no Heart Club Band. We're Alan Shearer's show no Heart Club Band, We don't care if you enjoy the show, We're Alan Shearer's show no Heart Club Band, Sit back and watch the Villa go. Alan Shearer's show no, Alan Shearer's show no Alan Shearer's show no Heart Club Band, It's terrible to be here At least you foot the bill You're such a lovely audience, We like to take your doe with us, We love to take you doe. I don't really want to stop the show, But I thought that you might like to know, That the strikers going for a song, And he wants you all to come back strong. So let me introduce to you The one and only Leon Best And Sgt. Hughton's found some Heart Club Band. Leeeeeeeeeeeeeee Ooooooooooooon Beeeeeeeeeeeeeest!

By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing... kill yourself. No, no, no it's just a little thought. I'm just trying to plant seeds. Maybe one day, they'll take root - I don't know. You try, you do what you can. Kill yourself. Seriously though, if you are, do. Aaah, no really, there's no rationalisation for what you do and you are Satan's little helpers. Okay - kill yourself - seriously. You are the ruiner of all things good, seriously. No this is not a joke, you're going, "there's going to be a joke coming," there's no fucking joke coming. You are Satan's spawn filling the world with bile and garbage. You are fucked and you are fucking us. Kill yourself. It's the only way to save your fucking soul, kill yourself. Planting seeds. I know all the marketing people are going, "he's doing a joke..." there's no joke here whatsoever. Suck a tail-pipe, fucking hang yourself, borrow a gun from a Yank friend - I don't care how you do it. Rid the world of your evil fucking makinations. Machi... Whatever, you know what I mean. I know what all the marketing people are thinking right now too, "Oh, you know what Bill's doing, he's going for that anti-marketing dollar. That's a good market, he's very smart." Oh man, I am not doing that. You fucking evil scumbags! "Ooh, you know what Bill's doing now, he's going for the righteous indignation dollar. That's a big dollar. A lot of people are feeling that indignation. We've done research - huge market. He's doing a good thing." Godammit, I'm not doing that, you scum-bags! Quit putting a godamm dollar sign on every fucking thing on this planet! "Ooh, the anger dollar. Huge. Huge in times of recession. Giant market, Bill's very bright to do that." God, I'm just caught in a fucking web. "Ooh the trapped dollar, big dollar, huge dollar. Good market - look at our research. We see that many people feel trapped. If we play to that and then separate them into the trapped dollar..." How do you live like that? And I bet you sleep like fucking babies at night, don't you? "What didya do today honey?" "Oh, we made ah, we made ah arsenic a childhood food now, goodnight." [snores] "Yeah we just said you know is your baby really too loud? You know?" [snores] "Yeah, you know the mums will love it." [snores] Sleep like fucking children, don't ya, this is your world isn't it? Quality ad.

Most people would have took £8m with a sell on clause. £12m without was probably a better deal worth pushing for at the time without hindsight.

Updated at 11.33am The lawyers must have been at work.

Our debt (£131m) places us fifth with over 5% of all Premier League debt (one 20th is about right though) Three years ago we had the seventh highest debt (£106m) which was just 3% of total top flight debt. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/table/2009/jun/03/premier-league-turnover-wages-debt

There's an easier to read table here... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1279762/Manchester-Uniteds-debt-spiralling-Red-Knights-wont-rescuing-club-Glazers.html Over 50% of Premier league debt held by Chelsea and Man u Hoy in Liverpool and Fulham and you've accounted for three quarters of all top flight debt. We've got the fifth highest premier League debt.

Which he can concentrate on full time.

Yes that's about it although the numbers are a bit different. MASH owns St James which owns Newcastle United Ltd, which owns Newcastle United Football Club Ltd. Overdrafts in the various accounts are: MASH - Unknown St James - £36m Newcastle United Ltd - the same £36m as St James NUFC LTD - £48M I suspect the £20 million figure you quote came from a journalist, and it may be what the bank demanded that the overdraft was reduced to. I am now hoping this thread is not going to head off into the world of how consolidated accounts are prepared.... I took the £20m from the statement the club released last week. "Newcastle United also has an overdraft of £20 million that is fully committed. It is clear to the Board that no organisation can be successful, until the financial position is stabilised." Can we assume the £25m investment went in to help reduce the 48m overdraft from last June to £20m currently? or is the £48m including the £36m plus an additional £12m?

Thanks Quayside. Always an interesting read. Just to clarify the bold bits, is it right to say there are now 3 companies.... Newcastle united - £20m overdraft Owned by St James Holdiongs - £36m overdraft Owned by MASH Holdings - No figures available Or was the £20m overdraft referenced in the recent club statement a red herring?

There are seats in level 7 classified as restricted view. The bars on the wall in front of the first row might need to be peered between.

Glad to see the seats next to us have sold. Got sick of randomers last year. Some of them honked. Now I just have to hope these new season ticket people aren't the smelly ones.

Wendy Dawley A Woman!? How dare they appoint a woman! Because the blokes they have had in the position of Head of Media have done such a stirling job in the last couple of years! http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/6/2/633795052534058740-Women.jpg

Just on the promotion seasons, not including the back end of 91/92 when Keegan inherited the shit or the 08/09 when Hughton inherited the shit.... Hughton 09/10 P51 W32(62.75%) D13(25.49%) L6(11.76%) 2.13 points per game Keegan 92/93 P53 W32(60.37%) D11(20.75%) L10(18.86%) 2.01 points per game

Wendy Dawley A Woman!?

When they say 1. there'll be no capital outlay on players, the current squad will do next year 2. they won't be paying off the loans 3. They don't expect to break even for 5 years. At least one of those claims doesn't tally...unless they 're planning to be in the championship some of the time. Are there still not loans outstandind that are from parties other than Ashley? The overdraft is supposed to be £20m.

If there is any misunderstanding it's only doewn to the lack of clarity in the statement.

When they say 1. there'll be no capital outlay on players, the current squad will do next year 2. they won't be paying off the loans 3. They don't expect to break even for 5 years. At least one of those claims doesn't tally...unless they 're planning to be in the championship some of the time.

Yeah, I discuss the contradictions in my latest blog post.... http://nufc-ashlies.blogspot.com/2010/05/to-spend-or-not-to-spend-that-is.html

£37.7 million was lost in 2009 and £32.5 million is the expected loss for 2010, from the statement the club intend to keep reducing yearly losses by about £5.4m every year to break even in 2016: 2009 = £37.7m loss 2010 = £32.5m loss 2011 = £27.1m loss 2012 = £21.7m loss 2013 = £16.3m loss 2014 = £10.9m loss 2015 = £5.5m loss 2016 = £0.1m loss In order for the accounts to be signed off, Ashley will be forced to put that money into the club to cover those losses, every year. So by 2016 Ashley will have loaned us a further £81.6m. He could spend that on players in the summer and have us in the champions league in 2011/2012

They had to clarify the situation to avoid speculation.

He's definitley a winner. He won't resign over not having the tools for the job though.

After having a few days to consider it...and having the follow up statement released...I've got no clue what they're planning to do. I think the only way the statements makes sense is that Ashley is going to keep bank rolling the club (covering losses projected for the next 4 years until we break even in year 5) and we'll be spending a few million (up front) on transfers every season. If he didn't plan to loan the club any more money then it would be forced to break even immediately as the accounts wouldn't be signed off in year one....so he must plan to keep putting more money in. If he doesn't plan to use the extra turnover to pay off any outstanding debt, then the club would break even immediately by default, not in 5 years...so he must plan some other expenses that will require further loans (player purchases). I think this is what a lot of people have already said in the thread...the problem being that Llambias has once again managed to fuck up something intended to be positive to such a degree that it's alienated 95% of the audience.