Chris_R

Depends if the alternative is to play Gordon up top for 25-30 games and he'll score 3.

You clearly haven't read the previous page where Michael Owen told us that players routinely get forced into moves they don't want, against their will, and have absolutely no choice in the matter.

Aren't they therefore useless because they can't buy Isak?

Thanks, we'll leave it.

No point even accepting £150m at this stage. What are we going to do with the money, pile it up in a heap, stick a shirt on it and launch crosses at it? Though I suppose it can't be offside more than Shola ever was.

Disagree very strongly with this. I think that's what he wants. What his agent wants. We bawl and scream about him and the narrative firmly becomes "he cannot continue to play here, the fans have turned". I reckon that's exactly what he wants to happen, for Monday to be all about him, vitriol from the stands etc. For me we should completely ignore him. Maybe call Liverpool a bunch of cunts for tapping him up, but ignore Isak entirely. No chants, nothing.

There isn't any number I'd accept from Liverpool this window, not after how they and Isak have behaved.

I get that you want to know, I do too, but ultimately isn't that confidential between the club and the player, and nobody else's business?

Well he hasn't, has he? Anything that's been leaked is from his agent, not him. So you're right, he's said nothing.

The club haven't said anything. This forum and Twitter have said £150m. Nobody has a clue what the club want, it could be £2 or £200m for all we know.

No it was at the training ground

Yeah, the man who's refusing to put in an official transfer request because it'll cost him a bonus but yet is still on strike for a move to Liverpool to increase his wages is clearly not remotely motivated by money and won't be remotely bothered by being fined.

And even if he did, he'd still have two years left by then so I'd make him stay another year as punishment.

It's weird this. I mean I agree with you 100%, clearly. But I always find it odd that football is the only subject where we cheer the corporate entity over the employee. In any other circumstance we'd be on the other side, or at least I hope we'd be. But football flips it around.

Basically nothing? His pay is just getting out of hand IMO.

But it's it? Without this clause, there'd be no mechanism to deny anyone their loyalty bonus, ever. There's always be some argument over what actions were what side of which line. This way there's a very clear trigger. And clubs can ultimately demand a player submitted a transfer request. It feels ridiculous when Isak is trying to play the game but if the club play their side right, it'll work as intended.

Yeah they are, but those parasites aren't journalists.

Because his contract says he gets a loyalty bonus provided he doesn't put in a transfer request. Standard for all players and has been forever.

Well nobody has said £150m officially so you're probably right. It's mainly been forum talk and then Twitter bollocks. Nobody knows if the club would accept £2 or £200m.

It's weird that Liverpool don't want him badly enough to put any more bids in, and Isak doesn't want to leave badly enough to put a transfer request in. Apparently it's up to us to actively sell hiim to Liverpool, presumably at a price of their choosing, and then we pay Isak a 'loyalty' fee out of whatever we get. Honestly they can both get fucked.

He'll claim he's too ill to play - mental health issue, not in the right frame of mind etc. Effectively he's "off sick with stress". Still entitled to a loyalty payout provided he doesn't submit a formal transfer request.

Isak could not play for a year, and then play for a year, and STILL have a year left on his contract and be younger than Kane was. I'd keep him regardless out of spite at this stage, as I've already said, but he's a cowardly, money-grubbing little cunt for doing it this way and refusing to put in an official transfer request. Demanding a transfer without actually asking for a transfer, because he knows that will cost him money. It shows what he actually cares about - not playing for Liverpool, but ££££s. That's it. This isn't some "only wants Liverpool" scenario, because if it was he'd have put the official transfer request in to facilitate it. He's just a greedy little cunt. Club's position should absolutely be "until you put in a transfer request, there's nothing to even discuss".

Fuck him and fuck Liverpool. I'd refuse to sell him purely out of spite at this stage. Even if Liverpool bid £170m. It's a matter of principle now.

Congrats work both ways.