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But we haven't been doing nothing have we? We've already brought in 4 good players.

He was talking about fitness wasn't he? I doubt he meant he only had 7.5 good players and the rest he thinks are shit!

Could any defence in the world really have conceded less than 3 against the way Arsenal played today? I think when you have that many players comfortable on the ball, confident, in form and playing world class football, you just win. And by a lot. The biggest problem was that when we got possession we were lacklustre and gave it straight away again, inviting Arsenal to play.

I was in the pub by myself and I looked like a mental case coughing spluttering and shouting back at the god awful commentary today! They've got to confine themselves to what is going on in the game and not try to be centre-stage in the great premier league soap opera. Attention seeking, sycophantic wankers.

Can't really assess any of our players on what we saw today, Arsenal are playing a different game to us and it's laughable how far behind them we are. Not many teams would have come out of that with any points though. All I'd say is that we lack dynamism and athleticism, Jonas apart. The way Eboue (who isn't an amazing player), Adebayor and Van Persie were gliding past us was embarrassing. If we bring in any players, they all need to be quick and strong.

You are right. The two clubs involved, the players and agents should all just agree on everything with a couple of calls. I still think we should have asked for £25m for Milner then phoned Villa to agree on it within 40 mins tops. I said ENQUIRE, yes, ENQUIRE!! Not wrap up the deal!! not agree terms, just ENQUIRE!! F****** read my post properly then respond Get you Saying they can enquire is a bit irrelevant though isn't it? Would you be coming on here after the end of the transfer window saying "bravo to the recruitment boys, they enquired about some great players"?

KK thinks every defender can play 3 or 4 positions But if he's with McKay we're in safe hands!

He's just being honest, no player is at a club for life, and every player is replacable. This doesn't mean Owen is leaving though.

Yes, but I've no reason to think what he says is just spin. Obviously he can't spill everything at a press conference, but he wears his heart on his sleeve, that's his achilles heel as well as what makes him likeable.

Got to say I thought the opposite, that KK looks as enthusiastic and lively as I've seen him in the last few years. Yes, he has extra experience and that might have added a bit of realism/maturity, but that can only be a good thing. If he can continue to push for positive moves and the right players, while being pragmatic enough to realise he might not always get them, he'll be a great asset to the club for a long time to come. I believe in KK.

Exactly, the way some people are talking is insane. You'd think it was normal practice for a club to replace it's whole first team with big buys every transfer window.

We've got a difficult challenge when signing another LB though... we need someone good enough to slot in but someone who will be happy basically being back-up to a 22 year old. This might narrow the range of available players quite a lot!

I actually missed that line when I first read it. No, we're not rushing into deals now are we, because we're flush with players. I think what it means is, even though we do need players we're still going to be choosy about who we sign.

That bit just needs saying again.

Let's be honest lads, we don't know what those figures are, nobody has any idea really. Only difference I can see is that Colo is class and Luque was awful, that's good enough for me.

More careful in what way? With players' quality, with their attitudes, with their injury records. I've said a couple of times the last few days, quality control is in effect... I for one am in favour of this, bearing in mind where we were with the old splash the cash system.

Can I just say...

Seconded, I don't where the talk in press and from fans about us needing a LB came from. We should show faith in Enrique and only bring in back up.

It's too late to work out whether that's sarcastic!

I think Pennant is a better player than he's been allowed to show at Lpool, wasn't he the league's leader in assists when he first joined them? For us, Pennant would be a good signing, and I don't see why he wouldn't leave Liverpool.

I think we're being a lot more careful with who we sign under the new regime, and that combined with a generally slow market has caused the problem, if one exists.

Our recent past is probably our biggest problem, say the years since Bobby left. Before that we were respectable and a big draw to players. It also has affected our fans badly and the way we are seen and see ourselves. Makes things like Milner going seem like a disaster, when they're actually very routine. Our recent past has shaken us all up, we need to hope we have the strength in the staff to regain some stability.

Argh!

According to Sky: SWP doesn't want to joing City or Everton: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4056605,00.html and Barry is staying at Villa: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4056628,00.html Interesting... looks like SWP wants to stay at Chelsea, the crazy little man.

That would make sense, but there's no link between Liverpool getting Barry and SWP coming here is there?