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I genuinely do not have a problem with Sunderland. Far from it, in fact, I've known lots of Sunderland fans in my time, and most of them have been good, knowledgeable types. My best friend is one of them. However, I'd be fucking mortified if any of our forums were as bad as RTG. The pubescent wailing and detachment from reality on there is quite something.

odd decor and car colour apart no. he often trains hard and spends time with his kids He also often declares himself unfit with a virus or flu, only to get spotted out boozing on the evening.

They can claim the VAT, but they'll only have to hand it over in any case, surely? Yeah, it will go to the state. In most cases the selling club just agrees to accept a bid for the value of the clause instead of having the player actually triggering it, since they won't be seeing any extra money anyway. But in truly hostile player buys it's a way to defend themselves and increase costs for the buyer. We claimed tax in the Figo sale for example. But surely the buying club pays the VAT, they claim it back? God. I'm talking about EU state VAT on a Newcastle forum not long before midnight on a work night. I need to get my life back in order.

I fucking love the internet. If this sort of shit isn't what it was invented for, then what was it?

They can claim the VAT, but they'll only have to hand it over in any case, surely?

The clip on youtube of Richard Keys doing that bit about Jamie Redknapp hanging out the back of Ruud Gullit's (think it was his) girlfriend has just been removed very, very quickly.

The only reason we're so low is that we usually don't get hold of the ball enough to pass it anywhere, long or short.

Atlético prez has just said they have turned down a €45m Real Madrid bid for Kun. His release clause is €45m+18% VAT They can claim the VAT back, though, so doesn't come into it. They can? Does that mean normal people can do it as well?! Ah yes, that's right. If you (as in the poster TaylorJ) were to buy Aguero - and, let's be honest, we've all been tempted - you could not claim that VAT back, unless you were VAT registered. My advice would be if you're thinking of putting an offer in, get registered first.

Stick that up your shitter, Golloway.

Atlético prez has just said they have turned down a €45m Real Madrid bid for Kun. His release clause is €45m+18% VAT They can claim the VAT back, though, so doesn't come into it.

A friend of my Mrs is a friend of Gray's (former) partner, Suzanne Dando. She assures us that he has a "miniscule" penis.

This is interesting. That's an awful lot of long balls hit by the saviours of passing football. Must be all that "it isn't working, hit it long to Crouchy" stuff. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thefootballtacticsblog/long_passes_table.jpg

Aye but with his age and the chance of getting his form back we could get a bargain from Villa, if he is willing to drop his wages. Indeed I hope you take him. Quickly. He's a decent player, but he's clearly as mad as a pint of cake.

What wage is he on at the moment? And how long is he expected to be out for? I think 70k per week.. Yes, he's on big money

Jonathon Hogg on loan to Portsmouth for the rest of the season. I like this lad. He's not afraid to get stuck right in. Put a quality "reducer" onto Lee Bowyer in the derby match, too, right through the little racist cunt, with both legs.

He's also got a knee injury at the moment

Houllier has apparently said that any loan deals of players out will only happen if the other club pays the ENTIRE salary, not just a contribution.

Good player somewhere in there but make sure nobody looks at him funny / laughs at his car / wears after shave he doesn't like, or he'll go into a massive sulk and be of no use whatsoever.

Holloway really does look out of his depth in the transfer market with the big boys. Just saw clips from his press conference, and it was hard to discern exactly what it was he was saying, but it seemed to be "Liverpools offer was a disgrace but I cant believe Kenny had anything to do with it they need to offer us more money but Charlie should only be playing for Liverpool not anybody else but its a disgrace they can't offer us loads of money because they're a great club" So, basically, he's simultaneously saying he desperately wants to sell him to Liverpool, and only to them, but also demanding they offer more money. I can see a contradiction with that approach.

They would have got less than an extra £1 million if they had of won it. Sunderland are probably already planning how to spend their EL money. Reading RTG today, they seem to have decided they've finished in the top six.

Fulham earned a total of €10,010,114 for their run to the final. So about 8m.

Nah, bollocks is it like that No player is going to give a shit about playing in the Europa League. Obviously, if you finish in the EL places, you're up the league, which makes you more appealling per se, but the very fact you're in the EL makes no difference. You also don't need to build the squad to play in that competition, you just chuck the stiffs in. I'm a season ticket holder and the Europa League was really the only time i ever got to see people like Steve Sidwell, Moustafa Salifou, Nicky Shorey play with any predictability. It's a shame. The old UEFA Cup was miles better, as was the CWC, but with this shitty half arsed attempt at a tournament, they've done the ultimate and managed to come up with something that unites the fans, the clubs, the players AND the TV companies - none of them give a shit about it. The tv revenue even from a decent run is absolutely negligible. I appreciate, incidentally, that Fulham clearly gave a shit when they got to the final, but the fact is, you start out in that competition facing about 200 games against any one of approximately 3000 sides, with that freaky group system where you dont even play each team in your group home and away, and you soon start thinking "hhmmmmm, Thursday night ..... best check if there's something on telly first". Even when you have some good matches, it wears you down. Our first year back in it, I went to all our home games starting with Odense in the Intertoto in fucking July. Ajax was nice (their fans were incredible), and some of my mates did all the aways too and had a nice time, but by the end of it, most people just wanted it to end.

Racist.

Colin Murray is fucking terrible.

I agree entirely.