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It won't be for this financial year, as it closes before the window opens. It's basically the same situation you allegedly have - balancing things finely, pushing it as far as you can without exceeding it. The accounts just published show the three year running losses - before deductions - as 37m (20-21), 0 (21-22) and 119m (22-23) This year the 37 drops off, so we're basically at 119m minus deductions plus this year's loss as the cumulative total. We've already binned 40m of home grown in this year, and we didn't spend hugely over last summer in any case, so I'd expect this one to be a lower loss (also as it will include more prize money and tv cash plus the UEFA stuff - 12m plus tv money share if we were to win it, 6m on our progress so far). I really don't know what will transpire, but I think we are currently prob in a better place than you are, because we've got plenty of high value assets on the squad, many of whom are 'pure profit' as they've been here so long - Luiz, Konsa, Watkins (I think), McGinn, and Kamara and Tielemans who were free transfers, plus Ramsey. I wouldn't want to sell any, but I suspect we will - just to create some wriggle room (NB in the next financial year, ie next season).

Actually my last post is wrong, the 0.3m profit year was the year before this set of accounts, so it's the 37m loss year that falls off the FFP three year total.

Not really, current three year period is >105m, yes, but with the deductibles, we are apparently ok. Our challenge is this current season, where the 3 year losses will be 37m, 120m and whatever this year is. Lots of armchair accountancy wizards on Twitter missing the point here and looking at the figure just released for last year. Yes, the Grealish year falls off now, but to counter that, this season we've already sold 40m plus of homegrown talent, all of which we can claim in this financial year. We also moved Danny Ings on, so that is also off the books as well. The thing with FFP is also, I guess, have a potential route out if the worst comes to the worst - I'd rather not have to sell, but then again, I'd rather not be Everton and looking at that squad of shite and wondering where on earth the money is. FWIW, I think your problem is that you've not really got into the business of growing and selling players to create extra room - you need to do that, it's not the answer to everything but it's vital for creating at least a bit of space (see Chelsea, as discussed earlier, they've made a fortune doing this in recent years, and yeah, it'll probably, hopefully cripple them at some point because they can't assume they'll always be able to do that).

It will be interesting, though, to see the continuing significant reduction of spending by PL clubs as a result of all this, and how long it takes however many people to find their gravy train shut down before they start back-pedalling on all this.

you (I mean the wider sense of you here, ie competing clubs) have absolutely no choice but to sail as close to the wind as they possibly can with FFP. It is absolutely fucking ridiculous and in some ways encourages more recklessness as the rules are so draconian all of a sudden (now it is convenient to pull up the ladder). The reason Everton got a points deduction isn’t spending as such, as much as it was about pushing the interpretation of the rules too far.

Invested a ton building a new inner city academy, covid losses plus of the three seasons, one of which we didn’t lose anything at all, and the other 37 or so. We will be well within the PSR limits but what these sort of manoeuvres show is how much of a ridiculous balancing act all this shit is. It will be hard to strengthen in the summer without also selling though. But then again we spent 8m on a young right back and 10m on Rodgers in January so it can’t be that tight. The other thing with all this is it just makes me more convinced we’ll be getting a new ground.

What is crazy is that transfer fees have gone nuts, but that 105m stays fixed.

Can't be that skint, they gave us 19m for Cameron Archer. Although yeah, tbf, that doesn't mean much, it requires much more money than that these days.

Get in, you beauty.

I'm with you on this. I see the point of it. It still manages to annoy me, though.

If we win the Conference League, that'd qualify us for the Europa League, but if we finish top four, what happens to that? If it's not going to another English club instead, it's surely a waste of a European place? Or am I missing something?

Draught excluder defensive wall nonsense can get in the bin, too.

In Pardew times XG would have been more appropriate as 'expected grimness', with one value, "off the scale".

It's weird, when Luton basically said at the start of the season they wouldn't spend stupid money to try and stop up, and instead would use the money from this season plus the parachute money to build what they really need - a new stadium - it felt like they'd given up from the off, but then on extra thought, it looked surprisingly sensible. Only for them to now go on and look like they are having a proper go at it. Sheffield United are absolutely shit, though. They haven't even tried and have no excuse for it. Also re Luton, I hope they stay up for Rob Edwards who is, like you and me, toon25, a Villa fan.

Well, we moved Archer, A Ramsey, Azaz and Philogene, all home grown, on for a total of 42m or so, and then there was Chukwuemeka for 20m, so that's 60m+ of home grown sales to at least create some room. Ings we got 15 back for, too, so we do do a fair bit of selling as well as buying. Zaniolo, I am 99% sure, we will not take up the option to buy on, so that's 22m or so 'unspent' but on the whole, we have the same problem you do - there's plenty of money available to spend, but we can't spend it because of FFP. I dunno, though.

it depends on our summer business.

Michael Oliver gave every single decision he could against us today. He was practically playing for them.

We were brillliant first half and Gerrardesque second. Still, it's the result the people wanted. It's for the best. FWIW, Arsenal also only just managed to scramble out of there with three points.

Chris Nicholl, one of my favourite players as a kid. Famous for two things. One, widely famous, scoring all 4 goals in a 2-2 draw with Leicester City. The other, famous amongst Villa fans of a certain age, scoring this absolute thunderbastard in the 2nd replay of the 77 LC final (I was at this match, and the other two). https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1761830640314396973?s=20

Listen to this stupid cunt screaming FFS.

Bumming the amazing Liverpool fans, who stand by their team through year after year of success - having chosen them in the first place because they're always successful. What fucking troopers.

He’d describe our exchange of posts like this “It’s Brummie, it’s Wormy, to BRUMMIE! And it’s WORMY!!!”

Just wondering. Have Liverpool got an injury crisis? I know Drury has mentioned it 36 times so far but I’m still not sure.

You've every chance of winning this match. You're capable of beating good sides *raises eyebrow* and Arsenal aren't exactly an unstoppable points hoover.

The state of Ben White's tattoos.