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Would not say no to that although still not convinced at all by Anita. Has to be this, wont be this.

skimmed an article the other day where it was saying tuchel had stopped the regular deliveries of pizzas to the players or something

That might also be down to the player's conditioning from the previous regime, I would be surprised if the mentality can be changed overnight. It took Keegan 8 games of dross before he got them to click following Allardyce's time as manager. Keegan took over mid season however. 8 games was roughly... 8 weeks, no? just came to post the same aye, mclaren has had the entire preseason like

goes both ways tbh, there's only one poster who has come out with something totally outrageous that i can see so where the rest of your post comes from is a mystery, other people think it's fair to point out that he's made mistakes in his selections and tactics so far, which he fucking has overall i'm personally not unhappy but instead of getting more quality at the back and forming a solid defensive unit we've 'opted' to get the whole team to protect the defence that's still as shaky as fuck when exposed imo and that's coming at the expense of our own attacking intent you'd have to be overly harsh not to accept that we're going through a process mind and that mclaren is clearly trying to instill some professionalism all over the place and we'll be the better for it in the long run, he's being cautious and i can accept that but he can't do it forever he's actually going to have to get some points on the board, which i'm sure he will

be a genuine moment

I saw that too, enjoyed it a lot. get in

I've been critical of him and will continue to be so. Fwiw I though he got it wrong from the off again yesterday with Colback/Anita and said so before kick off. He should have had Sissoko and Wijnaldum central and pressed them better from the start. We were on the back foot from the off and it was a contributory factor to Mitrovic playing too high and isolated. Won't argue with anything after the sending off though there's little bits that I'd have done differently. Totally agree when we were down to 10 men and I said this on another thread but it's good to see someone else noticed how isolated Mitrovic was and will continue to be until the formation is changed. It's so basic a mistake as I said and is so much a detriment to the team that I can't understand how he can get any praise. should have had colback out and perez in instead looking for the ball in the hole to link better with mitrovic... Again I agree or De Jong - also think we need Aarons or another quality winger to supply consistent quality delivery otherwise you might as well sell Mitrovic now as he will be a total failure without the right quality coming into the box - Sissoko is not a winger and will never be one aye he'll have his moments there but he needs putting in the middle with wijnaldum and anita immediately...aarons, thauvin and perez to rotate around the wide spots either side of mitrovic and use de jong where we can in the hole yesterday was overly cautious and we paid for it ultimately because mitrovic (needlessly) gave away a good few fouls chasing lost causes due to how isolated he was prior to the sending off, had he been getting any kind of service things might have been very different overall

Cazorla's reaction is the key one imo, said it yesterday. He's got a smile/laugh of total disbelief and then goes over to console Mitrovic. That's all you need to know about how 'dangerous' it was. Not sure thats valid as they would have been watching the ball, not where Mitrovics foot ended up. Sure if they had seen his studs hit the shin they would all have been in the refs face regardless of whether there was intent or danger. look at his face man, he saw it and he knew it was utter bollocks

I've been critical of him and will continue to be so. Fwiw I though he got it wrong from the off again yesterday with Colback/Anita and said so before kick off. He should have had Sissoko and Wijnaldum central and pressed them better from the start. We were on the back foot from the off and it was a contributory factor to Mitrovic playing too high and isolated. Won't argue with anything after the sending off though there's little bits that I'd have done differently. Totally agree when we were down to 10 men and I said this on another thread but it's good to see someone else noticed how isolated Mitrovic was and will continue to be until the formation is changed. It's so basic a mistake as I said and is so much a detriment to the team that I can't understand how he can get any praise. should have had colback out and perez in instead looking for the ball in the hole to link better with mitrovic...

i said pressed better if this was in reply to my post...colback and anita were sitting way too deep in a team already sitting too deep as it was had the midfield pushed 5-10 yards further up and has sissoko and wijnaldum in there who have the legs to get up and down we might have pushed them back a bit but as it was we invited them on way too much (imo)

Cazorla's reaction is the key one imo, said it yesterday. He's got a smile/laugh of total disbelief and then goes over to console Mitrovic. That's all you need to know about how 'dangerous' it was.

Has anyone bothered to look up the rule yet? I'd love to know what it says about intent, momentum and so on. Whichever way you want to look at that incident there's no denying he didn't mean it and there was very little possibility of the lad being hurt.

Same here. I'm a big Vurn fan but thought he was quiet

I've been critical of him and will continue to be so. Fwiw I though he got it wrong from the off again yesterday with Colback/Anita and said so before kick off. He should have had Sissoko and Wijnaldum central and pressed them better from the start. We were on the back foot from the off and it was a contributory factor to Mitrovic playing too high and isolated. Won't argue with anything after the sending off though there's little bits that I'd have done differently.

If McLaren has said they'll appeal I'm pretty pleased with that tbh, whether they get it overturned or not it'll show the lad they're rightly behind him. Hopefully they're allowed to point to Sissoko's challenge before it and ask why that's not an automatic red and then numerous other challenges throughout the game and if nothing else make a point to them about consistency. Awful, awful decision and it's heartening to see so many on here can see it as such

Can't help think he had the disallowed penalty in mind myself. I think he knew he fucked up and it was his first chance to 'right' that decision.

Yep. Same team just Ayoze up top.

Miss the majority of the season through suspension you say?

Same here.

A donkey We've gone off the reservation as a set of fans like, so beaten down it's pathetic. Then again he does have a neck tattoo and looks a bit intimidating, and he's from the Balkans.

Anyone fancy finding the actual rules about such challenges, or updates in instructions to refs... Marriner bottled it imo, 9 refs out of 10 that's a yellow and a stern warning.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: SO GOOD

4 league games. don't know what you want me to say, he's getting some shit wrong and we've 2 points from 12 with 2 "winnable" games in there disclaimer *****i like him, i like a lot about what he's doing and how we're playing**** but he's making some fundamental decisions that are contributing to us not winning games sorry to have an opinion but here we are

get f***ed man, seriously he's not moving when it happens, this is madness, i'm out, everyone has lost their f***ing minds...watch cazorla...he's laughing about it because he's knows it was f***ing stupid I'm not denying that it's a stupid rule, but it's the rule, so it's a red. I really don't see how anyone can argue against that. Don't think it was particularly dangerous, but it was a red card. watch the replay on video, he's hardly moving, has no momentum and no intent to hurt the lad...he misses the ball and the moment he makes contact pulls his foot out then carries on like nothing happened, because it didn't But when your studs make contact with another player and you are both going in for a challenge it doesn't take a whole lot of momentum to do some damage, even a graze can cause a nasty gash. I'm sure you must know this. as is every header that two people go up for and so on...he did very, very little wrong except perhaps not notice how bias the ref was going to be the moment he booked sissoko you can peddle the dangerous bollocks all you want but we all know it wasn't, "dangerous" isn't there to stop you getting a scratch or some stud marks, it's there to stop a broken leg and mitro's challenge was not even close to being near that If you think he's done nowt wrong there, then I hope you enjoy watching him sitting in the stands, because if he keeps missing tackles he's going to see a lot more cards. watch cazorla laughing about how bad a decision it was mate, should tell you all you need to know i'm not saying it a 4th fucking time And I already said it was a harsh decision, but if the ref gives it as a red you don't really have an argument against it when he's landed his studs on the player's shin. I'm not saying it a 4th fucking time either. It's not 1990 any more, the refs are expected to clamp down on anything that might be deemed dangerous. That's just the game these days. "dangerous"