mrmojorisin75

no-one is analysing anything, we're laughing at it

get in, this thread is gold man...WBCP killing it

ian man, isn't it just that the amount of excuses he's actually come out with for his own shitness has just grown to laughable proportions now? it's not like he's only made one excuse and everyone is jumping up and down about it i've never known a manager try to deflect from himself so much, at any club

ok gotcha, i don't see them tbh No worries, each to their own. I'm not going to bother explaining my position every other day. have it in a sig or something, would be super-efficient

ok gotcha, i don't see them tbh

That's exactly what I've been saying FFS. But you made up this thing about 'Ian chooses to believe it was good enough'. hold on, am i not being accused of ultra-negativity, in fact don't you decry the negativity at every opportunity? if i'm choosing that then you're certainly choosing to see the positives are you not? given that neither of us saw the game and all we know is we couldn't beat fucking rangers

and what TT said

is it not right? there's conflicting reports about who played where, and how we played overall no? so the only thing we really know is the team, opposition and result

so in conclusion brett, inochi & ian know no more than the rest of us about how we played last night but choose to believe it was good enough and aren't particularly bothered that we can only draw 1-1 with a third tier scottish team

why does it have to be considered either? myself and others are purely pointing out valid, football based reasons for supposed pessimism to be honest, your reason for "backing" pardew for this season is not sound; he may have had one good season but there were underlying issues throughout that season which were directly related to last years abject failure, and ostensibly he doesn't look like he's fixed any of them from what we've seen and heard to date i said in maybe november last year when pardew was crying for players that it won't solve his problems because he was unable to adapt tactically and get a reaction from the players he did have during the bad times...so what happened? he got handed new players, had a very brief upturn, and then managed to fuck it up again why is remy going to change that? it's not the players the necessarily need to change in the short term, it's either the manager or his tactics and coaching

agree, if the mackems were doing it clearly in jest then why would we be bothered...difference is they'd have a serious thread blading him pardew talks a lot of shite and nonsense while serving up shit football, at least we should get some enjoyment out of something 'cause it ain't coming from the football anymore

good post, and as regards the bit in bold his formula for success when we finished 5th was based on little else than ba and cisse scoring goals out of nothing, so yes i'd tend to agree with you

based on what brett? i'd seriously like to hear an explanation

sorry but what's embarrassing? i don't get how it's embarrassing the man is the alan partridge of football ffs

quite a positive thread this tbf

thought i saw some stuff this morning in the cabaye thread saying they'd flog him right now for a decent fee? but at the end of the day brett the reason pardew takes the flack is he's responsible for all of the players, results and performances whereas ultimately cabaye is responsible for cabaye (on a very simple level) one or two players you can accept playing poorly in a team, it happens, but at the level we're experiencing general incompetence and failure it's down to coaching and management

right or as a target man, or a number 10, but let's argue semantics

negative c^nt you man venkman

see i don't agree, it's taken a long time to get where we are...i remember during the 5th season when we were huffing, puffing and scraping to victories (prior to ben arfa vs. mackems which kind of changed the end of the season) a number of people like myself were trying to point out how shite our general play was and that pardew's approach was totally unsustainable we were all shouted down for being ultra-negative and that carried on until the penny dropped last year, now people can see it man, they can see that if we don't change we're potentially in deep trouble again it's not an easy ride, it's that in football terms the actual reasons to be positive are far outweighed by the negative and to not recognise that is surely just burying your head in the sand?

ian you're a sound poster but you really can't believe this can you?

you're not allowed man, it's just negativity, nothing is relevant until it's too late for some people...happened last year: person a) we could get relegated for the following reasons person b) don't be stupid, that's never going to happen for no reason whatsoever repeat right up until game 36 of the season when the penny drops same people can't see we need to change, we need to score goals and create fucking chances against garbage like rangers....so fuck if they were up for it, like man city and west ham won't be up for it?

i think the point of the article was that dyer continued to earn massive wages and was still floating around when he was clearly a busted flush woodgate never really recovered from madrid did he? when he came back i doubt he was on massive contracts like dyer continued to get, maybe but i doubt it

It's probably cheaper to initially manufacturer it after everyone else has initially manufactured theirs. it's before the first home though right, right before it in fact so they're probably anticipating that holding it back will create a massive demand of people wanting to have it for that game some type of moronic, yet very cheap, marketing tool

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/aug/02/1 has this been posted? for maybe the first time in my life i actually made my own face when i read this bit: "Those numbers again: in 17 years he played just over 300 matches, scoring 23 Premier League goals, including none at all between 2007 and 2013. In this time he earned between £20m and £30m in wages."