mrmojorisin75

purple's wankers

thinking back, for us, how often in a match did we play passes for him to run onto rather than an aimless hoof for him to fight for? he might turn out to be an absolute bargain for them, the drogba replacement until they sign falcao

yep, sorry to say you're right

he'll score a cuntload of goals for these wankers

let's be honest if we stay up now and even come close to top half we'll have had a storming 2nd half to the season so everyone will have forgotten this point for sure if he's then given a chance and doesn't resort to hoofball and 4-4-2 i'll have little argument with it i suppose he would go a long way to convincing people he's an actual football manager by never playing shola against anyone other than the mackems, at the moment that decision alone is betraying him as an utter charlatan

funny but struggling to think about anything i like about football these days been the same for years really

was taking the piss with that comment, perhaps a better comment would be they're prepared to take the gamble and sell of cabaye's and HBA's if they have to our better players would pull in a fair wedge tbh

there's a difference between a strategic approach such as you describe and ignoring the inevitable threat of relegation...that then becomes a short-term tactical necessity they ignored the threat last time and we went down, if it's shola / cisse to the end of the season then they clearly intend to flog our assets and try to go back up on the cheap again, there's no other explanation for it as i said

sorry what's this based on out of interest, and given the force of your conviction what's the minimum we should finish?

if we start february with this he wants us to get relegated, there is no other logical explanation

i'd take the qatari's me like, it'd be a rollercoaster ride until at least 2022

If a player doesn't do what he's told you don't play them and if it wasn't down to the manager, why did Ben Arfa, Ba and Cabaye who regularly attend training think it was down to the manager? Who do you play there instead ? Is it Pardews fault we have no one to play instead of Williamson, we have tried Perch, Raylor, Tavernier and Simpson there, none of them have made any improvement. Your reply would be valid if Pardew persisted with these players whilst keeping Debuchy and Taylor on the bench and lets be honest Taylor is still not the answer. Do you have any idea how Poyet managed to get Brighton playing passing football despite having footballers who are Championship standard? They're a highly inconsistent championship side, and have been for the duration of Poyet's tenure - I think you're barking up the wrong tree with him. I agree we need a manager with the attributes you've quoted, but you've based your opinion on two games against us as opposed to his managerial record in full. I have to agree with Mick's earlier post, think that really hit the nail on the head re our predicament. I'm quickly reaching breaking point, and have completely lost any enthusiasm for this season. The QPR game was one of the worst matches I've ever been to, and that's been followed by one of the most embarrassing performances I've ever witnessed yesterday. Also, the inevitably of the Everton loss was so galling its untrue - I really don't think Pardew has an idea what he's doing. Look at the majority of managers of teams in the bottom half. Most of them have players who wouldn't get into our teams, yet they are able to perform in the premier league due to an understanding of the system and philosophy that their manager is employing. They seem to have a style fundamentally understood, and players know what they are doing. The majority of footballers are simple beasts and are able to play to their maximum if they understand what is being asked of them. Look at Wigan, most of their players are individually poor and wouldn't get anywhere near our team. However, they all seem to understand what they're doing and play some terrific football at times. Imagine what somebody like Martinez could do with our team? Similarly look at West Ham, Norwich and Fulham - they just look better organised than we do and appear to have a system that all of the players understand. Our lot look like they've never met each other before and that's the fault of the coaching staff. The injury excuse is bollocks for me, because they've looked like that for the duration of pardew's stewardship with the exception of 6/7 games from the end of last season. Ideally I'd want to replace him, but I share everyone's concerns about the club's ability to replace him with anyone other than some cunt like Kinnear I might well be barking up the wrong tree with Poyet, I don't watch them regularly, I'm just basing it on the two games I've watched against us where they've shown quite a few of the attributes I think are missing in our side. One thing I will say is that it's impossible to play good football without good movement off the ball and they had that in plenty which made their players look much better than their worth and made passing much easier as a result. We need a manager who will bring these qualities into the side. It doesn't have to be Poyet, by all means give us some other alternatives. same argument being made in pardew's defence should surely be made in poyet's no? if his brighton side aren't tearing the table and are inconsistent then i'm sure he'd be able to point to the level of backing he's received in the same way pardew is using it to excuse failure

nailed it dave

there is nothing whatsoever been shown to suggest he has the ability to turn this slide around though, he's mis-managed good players the whole season so the idea is to let him have some more good players is it?

if long ball was down to simpson and williamson then the team should be coached to play out of defence without using them, it's not fuckin hard

most of our better players were available at the start of the season, pardew managed them badly and bled points when he shouldn't have done, now the injury crisis has bit and he's paying for that after 10-15 games we should never have been in the position we were

so what specific tactical mitigation(s) has pardew come up with in the last 5 months to cover 2 shit players out of 11 in his team then? that's what he's paid for and is the sign of a good manager is it not, succeeding in the face of adversity all i can see that he does is throw the same players in week in week out hoping something changes

i just assume they're following his instructions to keep a rigid shape in order to protect ourselves, i also think he's directing them to play it direct to the strikers....change the phase of play quickly and all that bollocks either due to a lot of our players not being used to it they're no good at doing it and/or he doesn't work on it in training to the extent that say allardyce would where although it's a horrible game when utilised correctly it can be effective some combination of that

yeah, maybe he's smart enough to see what we all see and his head drops or something?

never really considered the colo thing, he was awful during the last struggle (1st season tho) too

i did say cups...and yeah maybe winnable wasn't the right word, but it should certainly be easier to progress a lot further than we have done in recent years

We could have an amazing manager, good squad, owner everyone loves, but when clubs can go and do this and spend £80m in a year or whatever, makes you realise the chances of winning the league are nil, and even the FA Cup unless you get a jammy cup run and a few upsets elsewhere, are minimal. Disheartening and sickening that the only way we'll ever win anything of note is with oil money or whatever. Nah I don't agree, the cups are very winnable. Yeah you need a favourable draw but that's no different from any other time in history. We can hardly complain about draws - in the last five years we've played Hull, Stevenage, Brighton (twice) and West Brom, and been binned out by all of them. cups are arguably more winnable than they've ever been if you ask me, we have some awful luck in the draws to be fair but everytime a draw has gone our way we've committed suicide through nothing but our own ineptitude couldn't agree more with this

wongadome aye

not really sure they would have anticipated having a long-term managerial candidate requirement so soon, given their faith in pardew so if he went i'd expect another kinnear-esque short-term appointment to the end of the season as stated, not sure you'd get much better than di matteo for that