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Although to score so many is such a feat, I can't help to think that Barca and Real dominate that league so much that the amount scored isn't as impressive when you look further into it. Barca and Real lead 3rd place by 17+ points and Real beat 3rd place Valencia 6-3 away from home. It's not 52 only in Spain is it? Pretty sure it includes CL goals which is 11 (?) for him this season?

i have big problems with this as the way to judge messi against the greats (i) Maradona might have carried Argentina to a WC but let's face it he had 10 other competent players (some great) around him when he did it and manager that wasn't total batshit crazy - how the fuck can you judge Messi on the two world cups he's played in is beyond me. One manager left him on the bench at the critical moment when he could have proven himself yet he had to sit and watch them limp out, the other was Maradona who contrived to fuck up the whole tournament for them 'cause he's apeshit mental. (ii) What would coming to England and Italy and winning the title prove? He's doing it where it counts, in the Champions League against his peers from around Europe. If he left Spain he'd only end up moving to Chelsea or Man City and they'd piss the league with him in it. I mean if he went to Liverpool this summer and they won the title you might have a point. Same goes for Italy, he ain't moving to Napoli anytime soon is he? Football has changed man. He does it where and when it counts, in Champions League semi's & finals, in the league & CL week in week out with relentless efficiency. The biggest test he's likely to face, being 23, is what happens in say 5 years time when Xavi, Puyol, Villa etc. are all gone and likely not replaced by the same class of player. Can he then win them the same prizes and score with the same regularity? Will he be able to step in and dominate games like Xavi does? Unless Argentina get a sensible fucking manager the lad hasn't got a chance of "winning them" a world tbh.

those comments from Mourinho are a fucking disgrace - he's surely trying to force his way out of Real as he clearly knows he's never gonna get the better of this Barca team quickly enough maybe if he was given free reign to build his own team full of negative destroyers in his own image he'd get there in the end but it ain't happening at Real let's be honest

what he's doing in the modern game with it's far superior athleticism and pace will mark him as the greatest of all time if he keeps it up (relatively, can't score 50+ goals a fucking season, can he? ) and keeps injury free and the best part is that no matter C. Ronaldo does, no matter how hard he tries, Messi always shafts him and comes out on top love Messi me like, ray of light in the darkness that football has become

Wonder what they say about us? We've got a guy that can tackle himself. We're on some next level shit.

good point(s) more like a FFS signing than an MA one

what have his injuries actually been the last 2-3 years? recurring problems in the same area, or new stuff popping up?

is the facepalm for me?!!!111

that has to be the best rendition of michael owen i've ever seen mind

and so it begins! Skeletor is the lord

Great. new entries should all include the meme faces man, there's so many possibilities - could propel this thread and site into the stratosphere if i had the technical skills i'd be doing albert/schmiechel, bergkamp/dabizas etc..... it'd be fucking gold, get on it boys

how so, is admitting you were wrong frowned upon somehow?

What did Shearer say? Something of the lines of "He's giving himself no chance, by standing behind the line." depends how far over the line he was, i saw it once or twice when drunk so willing to hold my hands up on this one - i don't necessarily think he needs to be dead ON THE LINE myself, and stand by that, but if he was as far out as everyone is saying then it's careless i agree the point about where the ball came from is clearly the pertinent one anyway, had he been hugging the post and line he'd never have been near it anyway given the angle it came in from i'm of the opinion that we're too prescriptive in the full backs on corners thing anyway, as long as they're in the right general area it's fine for me (not 1-2 ft behind the line as is being mentioned here) because the ball NEVER comes in from the same angle, height or pace twice...it's all about whether the player is on his toes enough to try and react to the ball when it comes, it's so random a feature of play that getting hung up on nuances of position is worthless imo doesn't make my drunken semi-informed ramblings any more right though (and the agenda merchant thing was ooo Colocho, sorry)

Agree, he was much better. much

i'll need to watch it again, from memory he wasn't that far away from either the line or the post but won't swear to nowt as the forum agenda merchant i can pretty much guarantee you've got an ulterior motive in slagging the guy tape measures aside compare that goal vs. the much famed dyer goal where he was standing in position on the post and watched the ball sail past him effortlessly enrique was in a generic good position for a defender while perhaps not being perfect in any sense, the way the ball came in was a 1/10 situation and he shouldn't be blamed for it

yeeeeap, when you anticipate a standard ball coming towards you that applies, the way the ball came in for the goal he simply couldn't anticipate it - he was waiting for the flick into the danger area as happens 99% of the time the way the ball came at him was massively anomalous in football terms even more so to stay on the line in case the ball just comes at you and you haven't got time to do anything. let's just disagree shall we? EDIT: 'cause i need to go to kip na, stop up you lazy git. fuck off, it's ten to one here man and i've been drinking since 7... KIIIIIP

yeeeeap, when you anticipate a standard ball coming towards you that applies, the way the ball came in for the goal he simply couldn't anticipate it - he was waiting for the flick into the danger area as happens 99% of the time the way the ball came at him was massively anomalous in football terms even more so to stay on the line in case the ball just comes at you and you haven't got time to do anything. let's just disagree shall we? EDIT: 'cause i need to go to kip

yeeeeap, when you anticipate a standard ball coming towards you that applies, the way the ball came in for the goal he simply couldn't anticipate it - he was waiting for the flick into the danger area as happens 99% of the time, as a full back who held the post i'll tell you that's largely the way it goes the way the ball came at him was massively anomalous in football terms

EDIT: nah, more likely he wants away so much to Liverpool that he ignored 20 years of training as a full back, yeah, that makes more fucking sense

I don't think there was much more he could do on the goal. Good attempt to keep it out and nearly succeeded. It's not even clear that he didn't keep it out. Two awful errors of judgement just before that though which really piled on the pressure. agree...he was positioned on the back post and was in the right place to launch himself for a standard header at goal, the ball was clipped from an unusual angle and he didn't see it until it was too late NO-ONE stands on the f***ing line man someones desperate to defend him. you stand on the line in case it falls to your feet, sometime it's hard to remember exactly where your feet are when following the flight of the ball. from such a corner you wouldn't need to 'launch' yourself at a header. disagree, he was hardly a fucking mile behind the line - he's there to anticipate something coming at him which is generally a header in that situation -play the percentages! i'd tell anyone to be a little behind the line, not miles, or run the risk of getting caught flat footed his positioning was bang on mate

I don't think there was much more he could do on the goal. Good attempt to keep it out and nearly succeeded. It's not even clear that he didn't keep it out. Two awful errors of judgement just before that though which really piled on the pressure. agree...he was positioned on the back post and was in the right place to launch himself for a standard header at goal, the ball was clipped from an unusual angle and he didn't see it until it was too late NO-ONE stands on the fucking line man

seriously?

to the people questioning him on the goal, he moved as fast as Krul he just couldn't use his fucking hands