Kaizero

www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ex-southampton-skipper-claus-lundekvam-claims-1139455

Change the last word to society and I agree. I doubt most people would say that shit in public if they didn't have the semi-anonymity behind social media, though. Granted the fuckers would still be fuckers without social media, they'd just have a harder way of bothering people with being fuckers.

Not a fan of Collymore myself, but hopefully he reports stuff like that to the police rather than just retweet it. Stuff like that is why I hate social media.

Two seasons with 7 and two with 6 as well. Rest of (the PL seasons under Fergie) have five or less. Can see Moyes breaking the loss record this season tbh.

Since the inception of the Premier League, 9 in 03/04 and 01/02. Since his appointment, 16 in 89/90. In the league, not counting other competitions.

Why would they even let people vote for that?

Don't think we'll lose at least.

4-2 or 1-0

Not even knock-out stages. #winning

And most would snap their hands off for their "shit manager". I know I'd take Moyes in a heartbeat. I wouldn't. Never been convinced about Moyes tbh. Sure he's done well keeping Everton up there, but I just don't think beyond that he'd do much (something which is seemingly showing at Man Utd). Would want a more positive manager, and not just a somewhat better Pardew.

Martinez is such an upgrade on Moyes, it's almost insane to think of the circumstances there.

It's rotten here anyway. Fire a Subway my way though. I seem to have given Ameritoon a $20 gift certificate for Domino's last night. Wat.

It's rotten here anyway. Fire a Subway my way though. Ameritoon appreciates me giving him pizza. Need to get him in here. Think I liked that e-card more. Froggy doesn't even know we're talking behind his back I chose it especially for you.

It's rotten here anyway. Fire a Subway my way though. Ameritoon appreciates me giving him pizza. Need to get him in here.

If you had Facebook I'd buy you some Domino's, Mike. Fuck Froggy.

I was gonna offer you some Domino's, Froggy. Now fuck that.

I typed :thip: instead of . Apparently very funny in Mike land.

People responding between my typing.

Fuck you Mike.

'Polic is okay.

I actually think that in most of these debates, the foreigners have acknowledged that there are some differences tied to actually having grown up in the city and local stuff rooted in history, like the Tyne-Wear derby will be a much different experience for a local than a non-local due to everything that comes along with it on a day-to-day basis. The issue is more that whilst this is being acknowledged, we're still the scum of the earth.

By that logic the only ones allowed to say "we" would be the ones employed by clubs. I.e. players and staff. Just because you're from the same city as the club playing doesn't mean you influence the game. And before you say "the fans in the stadium are the 12th man", there's a bunch of non-locals at any sporting event cheering along with you.

It's not though, because where do you draw the line regarding who's "pure blooded" enough to be allowed to support different clubs? Obviously you have the extreme examples with Man Utd, Chelsea and Man City "supporters" who are clearly glory hunters and would change their allegiance the second things went sour or have Real Madrid or Barcelona as their "second team". On the other side of the coin you have people who for some reason, be it a player, family ties or just identifying with the identity of the club and have decided to support it. Now, I'm talking mostly about clubs that aren't the obvious big ones. More about people for example not from Newcastle, supporting Newcastle. I've seen posts on here stating that if you're not born and bred in Newcastle, you're not a "real" supporter. I can understand people not from the city itself not for instance feeling the same relief/hatred in the Tyne-Wear derby and such, as it's rooted a lot deeper than just football, but beyond these specific local incidents I struggle to see the real difference. If someone comes to SJP from far away once or twice a season, they may be spending more to witness just that one game live than a local supporter would for a season ticket. Yet they would get dissed for never attending matches, thus not being a "real" supporter. I just find it idiotic to attack someone (again, not counting the obvious glory hunters) for supporting a club just because they're not born in the region. I used you as an example billy due to the fact, as I mentioned, people have said one basically have to have grown up in Newcastle to be a real supporter. Yet I don't see you in any way being less of a supporter than anyone actually born in the city. Example: In this scenario, two persons have the exact same passion for the club. They're born on the same day and have grown up in the same city. (Let's say.... Brighton.) One of them have a great-grandparent from Newcastle. He claims he supports Newcastle because of this, a person he never met. The other loved Gazza, and started supporting Newcastle because of this. As mentioned, they both have the exact same interest and passion levels, just two different reasons. In this scenario, going by some of the debate on the subject on this forum, the guy supporting because of Gazza is a cunt and the other guy is okay because it's family. I just don't see that and I suppose I never will.

I don't mind GC. IIRC he's been to Anfield, and made the trek from another continent to do so. Not that it should matter. For every hundred glory hunting cocks there's one or two level-headed non-idiots, and not seen much from GC to place him in the former categroy. Yet. Newcastle have plenty of foreign fans, at times they get stick here as well for supporting the club. Most annoying argument ever since for instance people from towns Coventr, London and so on seem exempt to that argument, even if they've a better selection of local teams around them than most foreigners do. Nearest fully professional side where I grew up is eight hours away by car. By plane about 55 minutes. Add an hour-ish flight time and you're in the UK. It's all just nonsense. Especially when you look at a thread on here where people state why they started supporting Newcastle, and a lot of the younger locals list up Shearer as a reason. Now I just hope GC doesn't turn out to be a glory hunting cuntsack since I've bothered defending his choice in having horrid taste in football clubs.