Kaizero

What a goal. Fuck the Danes, but what a goal. Man. I'm almost not even angry from that fucking goal.

Bar that fucking scary Eriksen, Denmark don't look all that. Eriksen though, man, shitting myself each time he's on the ball.

Denmark are such hypocrits, man. They're all "Norway's only trick is long balls, lolz, we dun' play like that. We play football." yet all the fuckers do is hit it long for Bendtner.

I hate the Danish team so much, if we lose this I will go kill my Danish mate.

My knee started jerking and I tossed £120 on Norway @ 2.20.

You can't measure "fanhood" in any respects due to betting, man. I started arguing as I think it's a predisposed pessimistic train of thought which IMO is somewhat unecessary as I like being optimistic going into every one of our matches and, as Jonny Hall pointed out earlier, I find it more enjoyable to bet on things that would make me (extra) happy compared to winning from a sad experience.

Hahaha. I like that kind of humor.

Those are absolutely shocking kits from Belgium tbh. Looks like shit training gear. you buy for a fiver from a knock-off shop.

I still have a wet dream of us getting a sugar daddy and Mourinho coming here after he's done with Real Madrid due to his somewhat liking of us that he gained working under Sir Bobby. I refuse to live in reality, I'm going Leo DiCaprio here. Dream within dreams shit.

Of course not.

Either very brave or very stupid. Bet he gets a few "unpleasant" tweets from disgruntled Newcastle fans. I sent him an incredibly abusive tweet, came back from the gym had one from some Hispanic bloke saying "Your language is appalling. If you haven't got the brains to insult people without profanity best stay quiet" and some Everton fan saying "Wow, how bitter are you! Lol", he deserves all the abuse he gets the pillock I don't get this "I am a random person, I'll throw some abuse at some famous person who won't care anyways." trend. What's the point? They'll cry themselves to sleep in their bed made out of solid gold 'cause some random person on the Internet accused them of having bad language? It just makes the person shoutig the abuse sound like some petty envious cockbag with no life, tbh.

I'm gonna wait to see what Neil does, then do the exact opposite with dnb or 1-2 where applicable.

I, for one, enjoy a good debate with Ronaldo. Admittedly, I did get a bit thrown off by the "little bastard" remark as I thought it was aimed at me, which felt a bit unecessary as we usually discuss things well without insults. That said, I understand the view as some people did say that betting against your own team makes you a lesser fan. Which, even though I'm well against it, it obviously does not. Edit: And fuck you Sewelly.

I've never said anyone was less of a fan for betting against us, I just said I see it as wrong and tried to make my point as to why I think it is wrong. And yes, most of the time I get a lot of enjoyment. I don't bet on NUFC a lot, mind. Just when I have money in my betting account to spare, and I'm not "relying" on those bets. I'm putting them on for the off chance we do well, and the extra joy that would bring. My bets aren't random, (bar the odd knee jerk here and there) and I make quite a good amount of extra money from betting, without going against my own views on what is right/wrong in footy betting. So I'm quite content.

'cause you're making money off the misfortune of your team in a match you are watching and actively cheering for the team you've bet against. I guess some people just value money over having some standards, though. You want to win money and you want to be happy about it. If I won a bet against Newcastle being relegated, I wouldn't be happy in the slightest. For me, betting and winning money is about the enjoyment of it, not the sport of it. When I won the 6-0 Villa bet back in August, it made the whole thing that little bit sweeter. I was utterly bemused and delighted - that's what betting is about to me.

I just know I'd rather see Newcastle go to places like Old Trafford and still think there's a chance we'll nick something, even if it looks nigh on impossible to do so rather than sit back and wait for money to roll into my betting account from going into the match certain we'll lose. My glass is half full, probably why I find it wrong.

'cause you're making money off the misfortune of your team in a match you are watching and actively cheering for the team you've bet against. I guess some people just value money over having some standards, though.

I don't really think not betting against Newcastle will have a deteriorating effect on my career prospects. Why do any Newcastle fan go into any match thinking "we'll lose this, better put some money on it." Have some faith in your team, man. Don't bet on your team if you don't fancy their chances, but don't fucking bet against it.

Just as you betting on us getting relegated had nothing to do with it, one person using blood money on a season ticket had nothing to do with us getting promoted. Personally, I don't see how I'd manage to still call myself a fan if I'd bought an ST with money made from betting on our misfortune.

I'm gonna go find a bookie and bet some money on what age some old people I know will die at. I mean, they may not die that year, but if they do, at least I'll make some money from it.

But that is in your control, and its pyhsical tortue to an animal. Football is not in your control and is a game. It's a comparison to what you basically are doing, you're saying it's alright to watch something you love get smashed up as long as you get money for watching it happen. It's just not right. Not really, what you decided to bet on won't affect the relegation, whereas you're actively choosing to have your pet tortured. It's quite different. It's not the affecting a potential relegation, it's making money from seeing it happen. You're choosing to make money from seeing something bad potentially happen to something you care from, and it's IMO quite immoral. And to stay with the pet thing, let's just say you don't really know if the dude would torture the pet or not when you choose to accept the money, thus making it more similar to not knowing whether or not relegation would happen when betting on it happening.

But that is in your control, and its pyhsical tortue to an animal. Football is not in your control and is a game. It's a comparison to what you basically are doing, you're saying it's alright to watch something you love get smashed up as long as you get money for watching it happen. It's just not right.

Let's say some guy shows up at your door, says "Can I torture your favourite pet in front of you for ninety minutes if I give you £50? I won't kill it, just put it through immense pain whilst you watch. You get £50 out of it, so surely it'd be okay? I mean, your pet would be sad, but you'd be happy you made £50 from it, no?"

I always go into a match thinking we can win it, no matter how unlikely that scenario may be. I prefer to stick with my team, always. And if we play a team that we're unlikely to have a chance against on paper, I just don't bet on the match. That said I'd rather lose loads of money than gain money on my team's misfortune as I'd at least still have my integrity intact. There's literally hundreds of other matches to bet on at the same time as an NUFC match, betting against your own team is just twisted.

Betting against your own team is always wrong, man. I'd rather not feel like a dirty cheating fucker at the same time as being angry/sad from losing.