Kaizero

I don't. The part about the club thinking something is my assumption, the only thing I "know" about is the rejected bid. I was just using said rejected bid to back up my earlier point about how Rosenborg have no habit of accepting a bid just because it's extra money for the club rather than thinking of results on the pitch. just out of curiosity, how much is £2 or £3 million to rosenborg (thats pounds not euros)...is it big potatoes ? Yes. For 2010, Rosenborg have budgeted with £21m operating costs, and that's with £4m deficit (not counting CL money as Kaiz said). I just can't see how they can turn down a bid of £3m, which will cover almost 15% of their total operating costs for 2010. Oh, and exuse my business english please They already have... I've no idea what £1.3m is % wise out of their budgeted £2.1m player sales, but still. If they sell Demidov, which they will, they're pretty much covered and should be able to hold out for more for Annan as they'd not need to sell. Using Sapara as a measuring pole, they rejected a bid from Besiktas in 2009 said to be £3m, Annan should be worth more to them as Sapara had as much left on his contract as Annan does now. Which should mean anywhere around £4-6m. If many clubs become interested (real interest) I'd not be surprised seeing it push towards the Norwegian (export) transfer record of £7.5m (Carew to Valencia) either. That said, who knows what will happen in today's market. I'd just be surprised to see him leave for what's pretty much nothing in today's market after such a successful WC.

If anybody want potentially quick money, lump on Sogndal against Fredrikstad tomorrow @ 3.45. They are undefeated away from home, lead their league and are in good form. Odds are deceiving as Fredrikstad are not in the best of form after the summer break. Don't lump loads on it, though, as I don't want that on my concience if it backfires. I have £50 on a Sogndal & Bodø/Glimt double for tomorrow @ 12.08, though.

not all the time but you've got to admit they may talk to each other and stuff will get passed fromplayer to player. Yeah, of course, but i also think that the club recieve a lot of bids that the player not even know about. And if the players knew a lot, im sure that more of it would reach the media. Football clubs are in general obliged (at least Norwegian ones) to tell the players or their agents if they get/reject a bid. They are not obliged to accept one, however, as they own the player. They're not obliged to mention inquiries, but firm official transfer bids, hell, my local 3rd tier Norwegian club have to tell players if a club officially hand over an offer of a packet of cookies for a player, and they all have part-time contracts.

I don't. The part about the club thinking something is my assumption, the only thing I "know" about is the rejected bid. I was just using said rejected bid to back up my earlier point about how Rosenborg have no habit of accepting a bid just because it's extra money for the club rather than thinking of results on the pitch.

'cause people at the same workplace usually talk together, Einstein. Demidov is not exactly being quiet about wanting away.

Annan's contract runs to december 2011. Rosenborg would never risk letting him go for nothing, and will look to cash in as soon as possible. If Rosenborg fail to start a bidding war, Hughton is in with a serious shout if he makes a £4m-offer. Rosenborg need to get £1,5-2m from player sales in 2010, and when no one bids significant money for Demidov they may need to let Annan go. They've already turned down £1.5m for Demidov from Real Sociedad, and he only have four months left on his contract. Hoftun's also said an offer for Annan needs to be too good to refuse as he's more valuable to them as a player than a scrappy transfer fee, especially with a CL campaign coming up. Also, Rosenborg never includes a potential run in Europe in their budget, so they only have to sell for £2.1 million if they don't make it into either the CL or the EL. Also, they've already sold Marek Sapara which went towards covering that part of the budget. That also goes to show how they don't get pushed around, as they turned down £3m for Sapara in 2009 and let him go for closer to £1.3m in his last year as they valued his addition to the team over the potential loss of waiting to sell him. The bid Rosenborg rejected was 1,2 mill NOK. Mate of mine in the RBK academy says it was close to 12m NOK but that Rosenborg does not want to let him go before they can get in a replacement in August rather than not wanting to take the money as they want to have their best players in the CL qualifiers, and qualifying for the CL equals more money than from selling Demidov for less a month or so later.

Annan's contract runs to december 2011. Rosenborg would never risk letting him go for nothing, and will look to cash in as soon as possible. If Rosenborg fail to start a bidding war, Hughton is in with a serious shout if he makes a £4m-offer. Rosenborg need to get £1,5-2m from player sales in 2010, and when no one bids significant money for Demidov they may need to let Annan go. They've already turned down £1.5m for Demidov from Real Sociedad, and he only have four months left on his contract. Hoftun's also said an offer for Annan needs to be too good to refuse as he's more valuable to them as a player than a scrappy transfer fee, especially with a CL campaign coming up. Also, Rosenborg never includes a potential run in Europe in their budget, so they only have to sell for £2.1 million if they don't make it into either the CL or the EL. Also, they've already sold Marek Sapara which went towards covering that part of the budget. That also goes to show how they don't get pushed around, as they turned down £3m for Sapara in 2009 and let him go for closer to £1.3m in his last year as they valued his addition to the team over the potential loss of waiting to sell him.

No reply yet, no.

Despite what I already knew and liked about him myself, upon reading that 'in a nutshell' description, it just makes me realise that our chances of signing him are slim. Yeah, pretty much. From what I saw of him I'd be astonished if we had any sort of chance. Nobody's bid, so by that logic we have just as much a chance as anyone else at this exact moment.

No way in hell Rosenborg would sell Annan for £3m. No way in hell, that's as nonsensical as them wanting £10m. They'll be wanting £5-6m no doubt based on his good WC, and they have no financial issues which would force them to sell.

http://fatalfary.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/p5.jpg FYP

I'm just happy my reputation as a Norway odds pundit is intact, as I like doing it. I mean, one messy screw-up with loads of money involved from people and I'm pretty sure that's the end of my punditry.

£45 profit from this match then, not too shabby even though I now wish I'd rather just tossed £100 on just a Vålerenga win rather than spread it.

There goes the -1 with that sub.

Now it's very on.

It's on.

Cockmunching cockfucks. From a ball hitting the crossbar and having the pressure to fuck up defensively like some fucking twats. They better sort this.

I'm only c&p'ing our official site, which means you're probably right.

http://www.nufc.co.uk/javaImages/94/a1/0,,10278~8888724,00.jpg Kevin Nolan holds off a challenge from Spanish forward Xisco. Can't even beat Nolan.

Don't know where you got that stat from. Assuming Paul's predictions were no better than fair coin flips, the probability of 12 or more successful predictions in 14 attempts is ~0.65%, as given by the binomial distribution. And the probability of 8 successful predictions out of 8 attempts is ~0.39% Aye, that then. Bookies over here would have given 421,36 in odds before the tournament for the predictions of Paul, which means that £100 on it would have returned £42136

Was just about to ask this. Odds seem weird, why aren't they favourites? Vålerenga are 3-2-3 away from home and Odd are 2-3-2 at home. The odds really are strange, but in my opinion that's a good thing tonight seeing how they're big. Vålerenga will also need to win to stay in the title race, as a loss will see them 8 points adrift from Rosenborg at the top whilst Odd are just roaming around in the middle of the table. Odds on Norwegian matches are in general rather generous towards home sides, even if the home sides are much lesser than the away ones. Another good example of this is how the leader of the Norwegian equalent of the Championship were 3.25 away against a team in mid-table there (who were 1.75), Sogndal won 5-2.

It's sent, just a waiting game now. Basically it goes into further detail on the business plan itself (production & distribution) and stresses on many accounts how it's not an anti-Ashley protest as well as talking about how fans want something to remind them of SBR and how it fits well with the one year anniversery to do something of this sort.

Also got £50 on Vålerenga -1 @ 5.55 and £50 on Vålerenga @ 2.90 for tonight.

Put on some smaller CL/EL qualifiers accums, and a big £150 single on Rosenborg to beat Linfeld @ 1.50.