Kaizero

We already know who knew, naturally, it's down between two people. Who is it between? This could be fun! To be fair, it's probably the only one who didn't reply to the PM saying he wouldn't tell.

We already know who knew, naturally, it's down between two people.

The reds should totally expel whoever tattled from our side forever

Got £80 out of £30 on a Barca/Rosenborg double.

I have to admit I was sad to discover it actually said Ranger and not Danger as I first thought

To be fair their stadium is not even half the size of ours, so in that sense it's not really that mind boggling.

I'm gonna tattoo "Red Team" all over my body.

He's not stupid enough to let the bin dippers close in on them. It's Fergie after all.

What's the point of a footy forum if you can't comment on matches you've not played in? Plus, I said "didn't you guys have this American lad or something who was leagues ahead of anyone else as well?", not "you guys had this American lad", which makes it a comment based upon what have been told and discussed from the last game, even if I was not in it. Not a statement about the ability of a player as I did not see it. Not to mention, I'm not really commenting on the last match either. I'm commenting on the pre-game banter from the players from both team.

No need for this bollocks man.

It's not fun having the Mackems around in the Premier League without knowing we're secured 6 free points. Send them down in my opinion.

thats bollox, from memory, it was, Blue team, experienced, controlled possession Reds, disorganised, headless chickens. I'm talking about off the pitch in pre-game banter Plus, didn't you guys have this American lad or something who was leagues ahead of anyone else as well?

Or in footballing terms: Red Team = Lionel Messi Blue Team = Alan Smith & Nicky Butt

Red Team = Creative and playful minds. Blue Team = Joy killers.

They better, same with the Arse.

Fucking hell, not ten minutes in and almost all my bets fucked

Hopefully that means we'll see an Owen - Carroll combo against Stoke.

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Rather Butt in the team than Nolan based on recent performances.

Also, I am a very big believer in that Owen is better than Martins. But I do not "care" who is actually better at the moment since we have no other options. (I do think Carroll & Owen could do better than Martins & Owen though.) What I do care about on the other hand, is people giving Martins all this undeserved praise he keeps getting, while Owen gets slagged off like a lamb to the slaughter. Just felt like expanding on the "I don't really care bit."

Who cares which is better, honestly? The rest of our options are shit, injured or both. It's as simple as that. I don't really care who's better. I'm just fed up with everybody going on about how awesome and wanktastic super-delicious Martins is, when he's quite obviously not, at least not at this point in time. Yet, Owen gets stick on here all the time for being wank. When recently there's not been much between the two, they both should do better. Nice hyperbole there. Most people tend to appreciate Martins above Owen because of other factors than raw stats, I guess. Hyperboles are sexy And that is something that annoys me as well, when Martins from time to time does an N'Zogbia in the press, but then later goes "I love the Toon" and everybody forgets. Owen has actually not gone out in the press and said "This team and this team wants me." or "I need a bigger club for a bigger challenge." When without a doubt it seems clear he seemed to want away, at least he did not go whine in the press about it. Not saying those quotes is something Martins has said. Just I seem to recall reading something similar from a while back.

Who cares which is better, honestly? The rest of our options are shit, injured or both. It's as simple as that. I don't really care who's better. I'm just fed up with everybody going on about how awesome and wanktastic super-delicious Martins is, when he's quite obviously not, at least not at this point in time. Yet, Owen gets stick on here all the time for being wank. When recently there's not been much between the two, they both should do better. I just want us to score goals, no matter who scores for us.

So the "one man isn't a team" excuse works for Martins, but not for Owen. Who by far is the better striker when fit? As I was saying about clichés... Look at the stats and you'll see it's a fact, not a clichè. If you go by numbers at least.

Martins tends to get more "chances" than Owen, so in that sense he should be banging them in more than Owen. But most part of these chances are just idiotic selfish attempts from Martins, when there's better options around him i.e. Owen to pass to and in that way make it a better chance. But he doesn't, he goes for glory. Every single time. Hell, I'll even quote that training sequence from Goal! "The ball travels faster than you." Owen passes when he sees better options than going for glory. Which means he has less shots, but he still is more effective than Martins.

So the "one man isn't a team" excuse works for Martins, but not for Owen. Who by far is the better striker when fit?