Kimbo

It's all about the contracts. Also it's not like Aimar has never done anything, he is twice a spanish champion and has over 50 caps for Argentina. The only reason things have gone down hill for him is injuries.

So now you're guessing that people won't judge his performances fairly, for what reason? Nobody dislikes Guthrie, they just don't think he is a very promising player, and that isn't an unreasonable opinion. It's like Sibierski, everyone thought he was a shit signing, but he proved he wasn't, he was judged fairly.

True, but it could go either way. Could indeed, but the amount of people not giving him a chance is f***ing pathetic. Just hope the poor lad doesn't read "his thread" at his new club's message board. Not one person isn't giving him a chance, we're just giving our opinion. We could fake optimism, but what would be the point of that. I'm sorry but that just isn't true. Don't fake optimism, be optimistic. It's true. He will get a chance every time he plays. If he plays well people won't call him a bad or average player.

True, but it could go either way. Could indeed, but the amount of people not giving him a chance is f***ing pathetic. Just hope the poor lad doesn't read "his thread" at his new club's message board. Not one person isn't giving him a chance, we're just giving our opinion. We could fake optimism, but what would be the point of that.

Don't blame me, blame wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jermain_Defoe EDIT: Nevermind, it says it in the text he played for them but not in the box. I wasn't going to read the text of every player.

Along with Defoe he was the only one from the last squad to have never appeared for them.

None. I know it's not the be all and end all, but that's not very encouraging when you think Bolton paid £5m for the man who does occupy his position in that side (Muamba), rather than pay a few million for a lad they had on loan for a season. Midfield players infront of him at the moment include Muamba, Craig Gardner, Huddlestone, Leadbitter(fucking hell), O'Hara, Tom Soares, Andrew Surman, Noble, Cattermole, and Michael Johnson. It makes you wonder.

None.

Bernard admitted he had been a cock when he came back. I can't stand Souness but i won't blame him for that one.

Jesus christ. Why people insist on rimming Nicky Butt i don't know. He was shite for the majority of last season.

Agreed, i've just been watching his DVD and that's the conclusion i came to. He's no Ginola.

I really don't think anyone seriously thinks he will be a David Bentley, not even Pool and Bolton fans think that. You can't force people to be optimistic about this when there is no reason to be.

I can't help but be pessimistic about this transfer. And a Liverpool fan telling us that he's alright but Lucas and Plessis are ahead of him does nothing to help me.

I don't see how we have a choice, this is too bad for morale. Imagine if you were Beye(or whoever) and your teammate is talking like that, like the team is shit and he is too good for it. We have time to replace him, so lets do it. Gutierrez has played on the left alot so we have cover there if we don't get anyone in for the start of the season.

The Arsenal and Spurs ships have sailed. The very best he will do is West Ham, if not them then it would have to be Fulham. The guy has made a big fucking mistake.

Touché. Most were quick to dismiss the similar comments from Martins the other day after all. Still, it'd not be the first time he's shown himself to be a little keen to move. Oba wasn't begging for a move. He said he "probably" would go to Arsenal if we accepted a bid, but that if we didn't accept a bid he would be fine with it. Zogs comments are far worse in my eyes.

I wonder if Fulham will still be interested. That way he gets his London move, and we get to laugh at him being relegated.

I think you're in denial. I've always been a Zog fan, always thought he had alot of talent, but he's clearly proven himself to be a cock.

Sell him to a foreign club, preferably one in outer mongolia. Little bastard.

I've just been watching a DVD called 'Gokhan Inler 07/08: Beyond the Glory', and i can tell you he is a mediocre grafter, a bit like James Milner.

I do hate it how people keep pointing at our defence and not our midfield as the main area to improve. All that tells me is that they didn't watch us last season and have only looked at the stats. Lack of goals = strikers needed, goals let in = defenders needed, it's not as simple as that.

There was article on the back page tonight with quotes from Taylor the article was written by Lee Ryder & no Olly. Edgar was quoted in the paper. Alan Oliver has been on holiday for about 10 days now. Cheers. Any chance you can tell us what he's wearing?

What is this DVD called?

Interesting that you would comment on that and not the appearance statistics that i was referring to. For a winger he starts a good number of games.

http://www.football-lineups.com/footballer/1657/ Those aren't the stats of a bit part player to me.