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That really made me laugh . . . . good-un!! Then . . . . it made me CRY !

I am looking forward to quite a few "coincidences" then! Lets hope so, eh?

If it means that Ashley is now prepared to spend some of HIS own cash within the club, then it changes things a lot. if ? like plenty have already said the delisting wouldn't make a difference business wise.yes any acquisitions would have to be announced to the stock exchange and that may cost money but is tiny compared to the ammount we'd have to spend by losing out on the players needed. I don't know who these "plenty" are, but they are wrong. There are probably more knowledgeable people on here about this subject, who can explain it better than I could, but having your own private limited company is about as different as you can get to running a public, listed, having-to-account-for-eveything PLC. me,vic and keefaz on this page alone and it's been covered in hte main takeover thread. yes i know it is different running a private concern to a PLC. but i've yet to read one decent reason why he'd hang on till delisting knowikng that would happen anyway. Either way, are we all in agreement (do you think) that Ashley should now put his money where his mouth is(n't)? aye and the sooner the better!

Most of it will come from season ticket sales and the increased TV money. I've not worked it out, but that's probably at least £25m without increasing the debt. He may even put an initial extra amount in himself. However I don't for a second believe that in the long run he will continue to put his own money into the club. In the future we will have no visibility of how much he is putting into or taking out of the club though so who knows. Let me ask you this - Ashley has built his money with a "pile it high, sell it cheap" philosophy, and a permanent "closing down sale, everything must go" marketing strategy. What makes everyone so confident that with NUFC he will adopt a risky strategy of spending big on high quality players in the hope of large rewards (ie top end of the market) rather than spending just enough on decent players to maintain premiership status and occasionally getting into Europe (ie trying to be the best of the mid range market)? What makes you think he's going to be straight up and honest with us supporters when he treats his current customers as mugs? thats what he done with soccer world etc but not his strategy at lillywhites and slazenger,karrimor etc. he has shops which are aimed at a lower market and he knows how to sell in that market but you shouldn't try and make out this is his whole strategy as it isn't. Exactly, to presume he treats every business this way is ridiculous. As for how he's going to run the club, nobody knows how he's going to do it at this point in time, I think it's unrealistic to expect him to continuously pile his own money into the club so I think he'll initially invest money on players with the aim of raising the profile of the club, the raised profile will hopefully lead to a larger income for the club which will eventually lead to it being self sufficient like Spurs have. Our Turnover is greater than that of "Spurs" - always has been in modern times, most of the time FAR greater!!

If it means that Ashley is now prepared to spend some of HIS own cash within the club, then it changes things a lot. if ? like plenty have already said the delisting wouldn't make a difference business wise.yes any acquisitions would have to be announced to the stock exchange and that may cost money but is tiny compared to the ammount we'd have to spend by losing out on the players needed. I don't know who these "plenty" are, but they are wrong. There are probably more knowledgeable people on here about this subject, who can explain it better than I could, but having your own private limited company is about as different as you can get to running a public, listed, having-to-account-for-eveything PLC. me,vic and keefaz on this page alone and it's been covered in hte main takeover thread. yes i know it is different running a private concern to a PLC. but i've yet to read one decent reason why he'd hang on till delisting knowikng that would happen anyway. Either way, are we all in agreement (do you think) that Ashley should now put his money where his mouth is(n't)?

If it means that Ashley is now prepared to spend some of HIS own cash within the club, then it changes things a lot. if ? like plenty have already said the delisting wouldn't make a difference business wise.yes any acquisitions would have to be announced to the stock exchange and that may cost money but is tiny compared to the ammount we'd have to spend by losing out on the players needed. I don't know who these "plenty" are, but they are wrong. There are probably more knowledgeable people on here about this subject, who can explain it better than I could, but having your own private limited company is about as different as you can get to running a public, listed, having-to-account-for-eveything PLC.

If it means that Ashley is now prepared to spend some of HIS own cash within the club, then it changes things a lot.

at least you agree that mod decisions are being made differently when my name is anywhere near the thread but you're right, can't see why anyone would have issue with that p.s. did you catch my thread in CG before it was pulled? could have helped you out a bit if it wasn't started by me I guess.. Where did I agree to anything like that? You get treated like you're a w****** because you act like one all the time. Either change your MO or get used to it. Stop pissing everyone off then playing the victim when they inevitably react. Jesus, even dumb animals can be trained, Vic, you just keep coming back and repeating the same mistakes time and again. bullshit. that poll would not have been touched had it not been started by me. notice the difference in treatment between that poll and this thread. Do you not feel even the slightest bit embarrassed playing the victim like this? Just realised what "Vic" is short for . . . . he thinks!

I think that Owen is now the nearest we have to the "dead-cert-candidate" you mention. Appoint him Sammy boy!

New discussable development, nothing wrong here. If you don't like it, go somewhere else. Tbh, it could be merged with the 7 page "Club Captian" thread. It could also go in the Owen commits long term future thread. No point merging every single thread for having a minor relation to something else. Subject to the contents of the article, this thread has a much different slant to the two aforementioned threads. Threads: "Club Captian" and "Owen: I want to be Captain" are only slightly related? They are related, but there isa very different slant. This thread ismore about Owen's commitment to the club than the issue of club captaincy. Lots of different issues to discuss: What will happen if he doesn't get it? Should he be signing a new contract? Would he make a good captain? Is this a long term commitment to the club? On a previous thread I said Owen was my choice for captain. Got the p*ss taken out of me a bit! I felt it would influence his long term commitment, and I still think that. He is an experienced world-class (in my view) player, which is a good attribute to have as a captain/leader. Like you say James, I think that he should then (also) set an example by signing a new clause-free contract. I actually think he WILL do that as well, but maybe not until later in the season, when things are provably going well (as I am more and more thinking they will)!

Ah right - thought my story was more interesting though!

Well, "he is (a) very, very big" man, and all heart too it seems. Is he now!! Actually, a female friend of mine, who always notices that sort of thing (!) no matter what us lads are wearing . . . (she is 'delightfully' pervy to be around!) was in a minor road accident a couple of years ago, with a bloke who turned out to be the mentioned Mr Ameobi. Apparantly, he isn't all that big!

Didn't you? Well, he failed! I'm sure he'll be crushed to find this out, expect flowers to arrive for you any day now. Thats who they're from!! Was wonderin'

Know what you mean. Don't agree though.

You 'avin-a-go' like? Did I ever say we would not be de-listing? no you said it was a major milestone dictating the point at which Ashley would start doing something And it is! Yes it is. This happened at 08.00 this morning. Did you want him to buy Deco at 08.01? seriously, tell me why he wouldn't have 1 week ago? You are persistant. I said I was not going to debate that point (again) as it has been thoroughly discussed and answered (and it is 'obvious' anyway). So pack it in!! it's not f****** obvious FFS It is. take away the names and it's like vic's arguning with himself Just looked in the mirror . . . . . . SH*T, its TRRRRRUE !!!!!!

Didnt realise he was playing just to impress you. Didn't you? Well, he failed! Think he has tried to impress us all, and failed that (for most of us) as well.

You 'avin-a-go' like? Did I ever say we would not be de-listing? no you said it was a major milestone dictating the point at which Ashley would start doing something And it is! Yes it is. This happened at 08.00 this morning. Did you want him to buy Deco at 08.01? seriously, tell me why he wouldn't have 1 week ago? You are persistant. I said I was not going to debate that point (again) as it has been thoroughly discussed and answered (and it is 'obvious' anyway). So pack it in!! it's not f****** obvious FFS It is.

You 'avin-a-go' like? Did I ever say we would not be de-listing? no you said it was a major milestone dictating the point at which Ashley would start doing something And it is! Yes it is. This happened at 08.00 this morning. Did you want him to buy Deco at 08.01? seriously, tell me why he wouldn't have 1 week ago? You are persistant. I said I was not going to debate that point (again) as it has been thoroughly discussed and answered (and it is 'obvious' anyway). So pack it in!!

You 'avin-a-go' like? Did I ever say we would not be de-listing? no you said it was a major milestone dictating the point at which Ashley would start doing something And it is! Yes it is. This happened at 08.00 this morning. Did you want him to buy Deco at 08.01? Still need to finish the Strategic Review though . . . cough!!

Be interesting to see if theres any offical/local confirmation of this. If Owen does stay, until January at least, then we do indeed have some very decent forward options again, injuries permitting! Can't find anything to link us to on the Express website. Where did you see this? EDIT - just seen you refer to "The Gossip Column", not sure if you can link to that! http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/13863/Oba-desperate-to-be-part-of-Toon-revolution Well found. This is good news. Even if it is never confirmed officially, it is good to read! Now, lets forget about the forwards (Owen/Martins/Viduka/Ameobi, will do me for now) and get on with getting two quality defenders for every defensive position. Five more still needed (have I mentioned that before??) REALLY Looking forward to this season !!!!!!!!!

If selected. He is currently 4th choice, I feel.

You 'avin-a-go' like? Did I ever say we would not be de-listing?

Ameobi has had many, many chances to impress. For me, he never has. This season is his last chance! Is Sam a 'miracle worker'? Hope so!

This is true, but I still think he needs to be careful. Powerful people tend to be ruthless people.

Strangely Vic, I agree with what you say here. I think Allardyce has to be careful. He has now publicly criticised the new owners for being too slow - twice. He will be told to shut up (at the very least). Pity though, it was interesting to hear what he (Sam) said about this. (PS - UV, I have attempted to reply to your above questions, as you requested, on the 'delisting' thread).