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I will just amend your post slightly, in the interests of accuracy: I am actually speaking out of my f****** arse I'm amazed you can go a whole post without a CAPITAL LETTER ASHLEY WANKFEST Sorry about the occasional CAPITALS , I am just getting carried away a bit by this so-much-better close season! But, can I just ask you - are you optimistic (feeling positive) about anything that is currently happening at the club at the moment? excited when the takeover was announced subsequently: Barton, Fatduka, a hundred worn out bosmans, bike rides and swimming now progressively getting more bored waiting for something good to actually happen, while being subjected to your increasingly annoying brand of frankly prescription induced looking hysteria yawn. Vic man, it is not hysteria. It is 'realism' based on my knowlege of our club, and what needed to be done to take it that extra mile, that most of us had hitherto only dreamed about! It is happening, everything points to that. But, it does not all happen instantly. It is happening though, and I intend to enjoy it happening, just as much as I will enjoy it when it has happened. You know what they say about 'anticipation and realisation' - so you just enjoy it too . . go on! I can assure you - it is real (I would have put that last bit in CAPS, but . . . ).

I will just amend your post slightly, in the interests of accuracy: I am actually speaking out of my f****** arse I'm amazed you can go a whole post without a CAPITAL LETTER ASHLEY WANKFEST Sorry about the occasional CAPITALS , I am just getting carried away a bit by this so-much-better close season! But, can I just ask you - are you optimistic (feeling positive) about anything that is currently happening at the club at the moment?

I will just amend your post slightly, in the interests of accuracy: I am actually speaking out of my f****** arse

This is an excellent statement from Michael Owen. It does not matter who wrote/co-wrote it. It contains the right 'detail' about why he is staying (Allardyce / Ashley Takeover / Training Methods / Ambition of Club, etc etc). As a side-issue, this statement actually tells us from the 'inside' (what we were mostly thinking from the outside anyway) that this great club (in our view) is currently completing the final transformations needed to become a perennially top ("really great") club. The timing of the statement and the so-called real reasons for it have been criticised in the usual way, by the usual suspects on here. It really does not matter if you (critics/cynics) are right - you may be - because in the real world, it is the END PRODUCT that matters most. That end product is that we now have an almost-new (Top Class) "signing", motivated to play for us . . . . . . called Michael Owen! For now, he needs to do no more than start banging in the goals and celebrating with us at St James' when he does it!! Any contract re-negotiations can and will follow, at the right time. In a close season of continuing BIG (good) news - this news ranks alongside the Ashley takeover and the realisation of the quality of the Allardyce appointment - as the JOINT BEST NEWS! Criticise that, if you can (but think about it first).

I agree with what you say, but why add the "to come to NUFC" bit? I can understand supporters of (say) Reading or Bolton saying that, but I have always been aware that (for many reasons) the City of Newcastle and Newcastle United are very attractive propositions for a player. At the moment, only the 'current top four' are more attractive, and I am betting that even that will change considerably, in the next year or so! You do have a point, but if we were going to replace Martins hopefully the replacement would be "top 4" standard so we'd need to lure the player, which would be very hard against a top four team. And yes we probably are one of the best destinations outside top 4 and that will hopefully improve 8) Personally, I think Martins will stay, and like you I think he would be a bit of an idiot to leave! Myself, I never refer to the currently most successful teams in our league as the Top/Big Four (as this implies permanency, which I do not believe will be the case) only as - what they are - the "Current Top Four".

I agree with what you say, but why add the "to come to NUFC" bit? I can understand supporters of (say) Reading or Bolton saying that, but I have always been aware that (for many reasons) the City of Newcastle and Newcastle United are very attractive propositions for a player. At the moment, only the 'current top four' are more attractive, and I am betting that even that will change considerably, in the next year or so!

I know, I think many of us are quite hyped up by what is (appears to be) going on this summer! But think about it - why are we hyped up? It is because we think that, for the first time in years a lot of genuinly GOOD stuff, exciting stuff - IS gonna happen. It's great isn't it? (even if it doesn't ALL come off . . . ) With the new structure at the club (Ashley / Allardyce) ANYTHING is possible!!

That was a pleasure to read - "Mr Happy"! For what it's worth, I don't agree with you. I hope you enjoy the next few weeks as much as I think I am about to though!!

I'll donate my profits from the sale of me shares . . . . . woops !!!!!! Sorry! If it goes that way, I would bung something in. No problem. Look on it as an 'investment' (eh Vic?)

Lightweight footballer who believes in his own hype. He's nowhere near as good of a player as Damien Duff, who I'm sure will perform this season. are you for real Pongle! Duff is one of the worst players we have in the squad who cost about £5million was it? i would've got rid of him by now if i was the manager and im pretty sure Sam will when duffs back from injury. n'zogbia is younger, stronger and has more talent than duff Both are very good players. Zoggy from the season before last and Duff from his times at Chelsea and (particularly) Blackburn. I have two questions though: (1) Is Zoggy's 'change of attitude' reversible by Sam? (2) Is Duff's sudden loss of ability to take on and beat a man and come up with an end-product, permanent (at his age)? Two potentially 'ongoing problem' players . . . . .

As long as Raul, Deco and Kaka can agree to adapt to new positions, I don't see why Eto'o, Shevchenko and Adriano can't work together up front effectively for us

Yeah, this too. I think he has made his recording already, guys . . unless I have read it wrong?

BBC2??? Tyne Tees mate!

No european football. No track record of success. North of England. Other options. Something of a step-down from Barcelona. We still don't have a left-back. "North of England" - Very bizarre thing to say. What are YOU ashamed of? Verlaine's a southern softie anyway. He has a point though. I love the Toon but I realise it isn't that attractive an option to your average foreigner. So, so, so wrong. See my response to Verlaine. I'm not wrong though. You appear brainwashed. It is not possible to think and say what you think and say, without that having happened to you - throughout your life. Think about it. I have. Cheers Aye, my fault, lets get back to football crack!!!

No european football. No track record of success. North of England. Other options. Something of a step-down from Barcelona. We still don't have a left-back. "North of England" - Very bizarre thing to say. What are YOU ashamed of? Verlaine's a southern softie anyway. He has a point though. I love the Toon but I realise it isn't that attractive an option to your average foreigner. So, so, so wrong. See my response to Verlaine. I'm not wrong though. You appear brainwashed. It is not possible to think and say what you think and say, without that having happened to you - throughout your life. Think about it.

No european football. No track record of success. North of England. Other options. Something of a step-down from Barcelona. We still don't have a left-back. "North of England" - Very bizarre thing to say. What are YOU ashamed of? I'm just pointing out that, to pampered global superstar footballers, the far North of England isn't necessarily the most attractive of destinations. The "far" North of England, implies that there is somewhere ("the place") to be 'far' from. Your words indicate a massive sense of inferiority. England is a great place for footballers, and it is a very small place (nowhere is very 'far' from any where else). The main place foreigners have heard of is London, but they also hear (from many people) that it is a sh*thole. The big cities of England - particularly the Regional Capitals, are known as fantastic places to be, even if us in the UK itself (having suffered from lifelong BRAINWASHING from the London-based media ("London-based, you see) tend not to think of our big regional capitals as great places - though they ARE! Manchester, Birmingham, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Glasgow, etc, etc, are great city-regions. ADD TO THAT, if they have a big football club!!!!! Regional Capital City + Newcastle United FC - is a great international attraction. That is how it is, even if the incessant 'brainwashing' from our Cockney-based media ALWAYS implies (clearly or subliminally) otherwise! Birmingham and Glasgow are f****** s****. I don't have any sense of inferiority whatsoever. I think my point was a very reasonable one. There is a difference between the North and places like London, you can't argue with that. It's all well and good to love where you live, and I commend that. However, you're talking about players who grew up in Brazil, spent 20 years in Portugal or Spain, moving to somewhere with an entirely entirely different culture and climate. Glasgow and Birmingham are good cities in which to live and to visit. It is "parochial" in the extreme to say where you live is good - just because you live there. (I lived in Hartlepool for a while you know!!). The difference between "The North" (what is that, by the way? - there are lots of wildly varying Cities, Towns, Villages and Countryside in "the North") and ""places like London" - what does that mean? Are they good differences? (of course, many of them are) or what? What do you mean by "places like London"?. You do seem to have a huge inferiority complex!

No european football. No track record of success. North of England. Other options. Something of a step-down from Barcelona. We still don't have a left-back. "North of England" - Very bizarre thing to say. What are YOU ashamed of? Verlaine's a southern softie anyway. He has a point though. I love the Toon but I realise it isn't that attractive an option to your average foreigner. So, so, so wrong. See my response to Verlaine.

No european football. No track record of success. North of England. Other options. Something of a step-down from Barcelona. We still don't have a left-back. "North of England" - Very bizarre thing to say. What are YOU ashamed of? I'm just pointing out that, to pampered global superstar footballers, the far North of England isn't necessarily the most attractive of destinations. The "far" North of England, implies that there is somewhere ("the place") to be 'far' from. Your words indicate a massive sense of inferiority. England is a great place for footballers, and it is a very small place (nowhere is very 'far' from any where else). The main place foreigners have heard of is London, but they also hear (from many people) that it is a sh*thole. The big cities of England - particularly the Regional Capitals, are known as fantastic places to be, even if us in the UK itself, having suffered from lifelong BRAINWASHING from the London-based media ("London-based", you see. They can't help it) tend not to think of our big regional capitals as great places - though they ARE! Manchester, Birmingham, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Glasgow, etc, etc, are great city-regions. ADD TO THAT, if they have a big football club!!!!! Regional Capital City + Newcastle United FC - is a great international attraction. That is how it is, even if the incessant 'brainwashing' from our Cockney-based media ALWAYS implies (clearly or subliminally) otherwise!

Oh dear!! Was it nice on Mars? When did you get back?

No european football. No track record of success. North of England. Other options. Something of a step-down from Barcelona. We still don't have a left-back. "North of England" - Very bizarre thing to say. What are YOU ashamed of?

Not all players (especially knowledgeable, senior players) are as 'tunnel vision' as some on here (often, very often) seem to say! Many would choose us over a small or smaller club that 'just happened' to be in Europe (even if it was the Champions League) this particular season. The number of times I have read "they are looking for CL football", or something like that, on here. It is not as simple as that. They can see what is going on here (Huge club, loadsa money (our own earned income from huge fanbase) + Allardyce and players he is buying, plus MORE loadsa money since Ashley arrived, etc, etc . . . ) I think any good player would come here, if the timing was right for him.

me too actually as for deco and eto'o, i seriously doubt they'd ever come, even if barca would be willing to let them go... Our club has changed greatly in the last few months. It was always 'capable' of being very big, now more so even - people can see that. Why would they not come here??

And, maybe, over the next few years, we'll actually, say, be in Europe. This may help. I know we are not in Europe in the coming season, but we are (have been) in Europe pretty well every season since we came into the Premier League - so we are known for that, around and about. Also, I am sure it is not only us NUFC supporters, who have noticed what has been happening here this summer. It will not be only us that will see what the alliance between what we already had, plus a new billionaire with ambition, can achieve.

Yeah, but were talking about now, I have confidence in us, but not in us getting deco for gods sake. I hope they'll be oscolete too in a few years. Cant believe this threads up to 4 pages already about a story in the news of the world. It may as well have been written on tribal football. Agreed. As I say "in the next few years". But even now I would not say "never come to us" with the degree of 'certainty' and enthusiasm that some seem to say it! Also agree that this just another made up NOTW story!!

I love all the "it'll never happen" and "he'll never come here" comments, so many have felt the need to say in this thread! Such confidence! Hopefully the club will move forward over the next few years, in a way that will render such heartfelt comments as being old fashioned and obsolete.