manorpark

Yeah, we all know that as we have been in Europe almost every season since we joined the Premier League, we will have earned huge amounts more than Spurs overall - but the problem is last season. How can they have earned (according to the Cockney-based papers) "10 TIMES" (almost exactly) what we earned? They cannot. Why was it printed?? Why was it not queried - or, at least, 'commented on'?? howay man, 'cause it's spurs don't you know? surely you've heard that they sign every player cheaper than anyone else could have and pay them less - they only join spurs due to the allure of the seven sisters road and surrounding palatial areas therefore it stands to reason they'd get 10 times more income than us for playing one more game doesn't it? Used to live near 'Seven Sisters'. I think you and I must have the same definition of 'palatial', in this case!! How (does anyone know) can we find out the real figures? I have just responded to the 'online comments' section of the Daily Mail, asking them if they queried the "strange" respective Spurs/Newcastle figures? I am not holding my breath!

Bort?? Aww man. "We need more Bort licence plates in the gift shop..." "Bort, Bort? Who calls their son Bort???" "I'm Bort!" "Are you talking to me?" "No my son is named Bort also" etc... Lets "abort" this line of comments! Anyone know when "Wednesday morning" actually is?

Yeah, we all know that as we have been in Europe almost every season since we joined the Premier League, we will have earned huge amounts more than Spurs overall - but the problem is last season. How can they have earned (according to the Cockney-based papers) "10 TIMES" (almost exactly) what we earned? They cannot. Why was it printed?? Why was it not queried - or, at least, 'commented on'?? howay man, 'cause it's spurs don't you know? surely you've heard that they sign every player cheaper than anyone else could have and pay them less - they only join spurs due to the allure of the seven sisters road and surrounding palatial areas therefore it stands to reason they'd get 10 times more income than us for playing one more game doesn't it? Used to live near 'Seven Sisters'. I think you and I must have the same definition of 'palatial', in this case!! How (does anyone know) can we find out the real figures?

Yeah, we all know that as we have been in Europe almost every season since we joined the Premier League, we will have earned huge amounts more than Spurs overall - but the problem is last season. How can they have earned (according to the Cockney-based papers) "10 TIMES" (almost exactly) what we earned? They cannot. Why was it printed?? Why was it not queried - or, at least, 'commented on'??

I think we would see off any competition. It all depends on whether the Russians want rid, or not?

my thoughts - it's bollocks if you ask me. It sounds like a load of sh*te. We were on TV (full length live coverage) every round - Spurs were not. We only played in one less round (in fact in the same number of rounds if you take into account Spurs 'bye'). The "prize money' for one extra round cannot be that different either (?) It is just "typical" of the Cockney-based (so called NATIONAL) media to 'just' accept this junk (obviously wrong) and to publish it (obviously wrong) without seeming-question. If the shortfall was about a Cockney club (eg Tottenham 'overhyped' Hotspur) they would have either queried it or just not printed it. For us - they just "accept" it at face value, without bothering their silly Cockney grey-cells. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE ACTUAL REAL "NATIONAL NEWSPAPERS" IN THIS COUNTRY. ANYONE THINK WE WILL EVER GET ANY??

I think that is one thing he will not tell us. I do not expect Ashley/Mort will ever reveal how much is in the (player purchase) budget! I would not want them to, either. That would be "one big mistake" (and one I am sure they will not make!)

and possibly european football What's that got to do with anything? If 'world class' players, or at least very good players move on then they tend to like a bit of Champions league / UEFA Cup football. We can't offer it. Still, nothing ventured....... There are (as in all aspects of life) "class" people in football, who want to be involved in "making a club successful" / "helping get it into the Champions League" - if they see the potential for that to happen. It is still about self interest, it would look even better on their CV to be part of that, than to just join a club that has already achieved (say) regular Champions League involvement. The crucial factor is that we have to be SEEN to have that potential (in the fairly short-term) - which surely we have!

There won't be much point in saying that sort of thing. Not worth him coming into the office, for that! That would be a complete "waste of time". I get the impression that Ashley and his 'people' (in this case Mort) do not historically waste their own time and will not do so now. Neither will they waste ours. They appear NOT to be that kind of people. They appear very professional - the opposite of what we (and football generally) are used to having at the top. Just my opinion.

Don't you think it's high time the man who's just taken over the football club we all support, or in this case his second in command, came out and told us what his plans are with his new acquisition? I for one am very curious about his level of commitment to bringing us success or otherwise, and find it rather strange that we, as fans, haven't demanded to be informed of this earlier, before Mr Ashley got hold of our club immeadiatly. We are after all his ´customers´ and in the middle of season ticket renewal.. THIS WILL BE VERY INTERESTING. I am certain he will cover most, hopefully all, of: (1) His Role. (2) Shepherds Role. (3) Ashley's Role. (4) Ashley's 'general' aims and 'general' plans for the club (Premier League Champions / Winning Champions League - or whatever . . . ) Does he (Ashley) see us as being Englands most successful club, long term . . . or just 'competing' at the top with others. (5) Some 'specific' short-term objectives (next season). (6) Hopefully, some 'specific' (time-related) longer-term objectives. (7) Re-development / extension of the ground (Shepherds £300M plans for Conference Centres, Hotels, etc). 8 De-listing the club from the LSE (when and WHY). (9) That money (additional over NUFC earned-income) will be put in to facilitate player purchases - but NO specific figures will be given!! All of the above, and more that I cannot bring directly to mind, are things that I have wanted to know about ever since the Ashley takeover was first mooted. I would find all this very (very) interesting (cannot understand why any of us would not!) and I think that for the FIRST TIME we will actually KNOW (not newspaper speculation) some stuff about our club's likely future, by tomorrow morning!!

I can see it happening. The Ashley/Allardyce regime is still new to us all, but I can see that they may not have any sentimental attachment to retaining Amoebi. Bye Bye Shola??

That report could have been written either way - either "cool on a move" or "unsure of future at Barca". All still up for grabs!

Aye, i would have thought so. Sam will probably still correspond with the odd person, he's not just going to stop, but i can't imagine there'll be any more faces for the next seven days. Probably why the Geremi thing has been wrapped up so quickly. Not so sure if things will slow down much really. Austria is just as handy a place to meet up with European-based players (perhaps handier) as England is. I think the 'squad building' will just rumble on regardless! ("Bonding" during the day! / "Signing" in the evenings!!)

:lol: Dyer = Lampard? What stupidity! Agreed! But, hey, a "swap" deal would be ok!!!!

Is he quoted for saying the opposite? By deliberately not saying anything (he knows people are concerned about it) he is effectively "saying the opposite by omission" - YES! (Myself, actually think he is staying - but he should SPEAK!) I see your point, but how many time in his career has he been linked to various clubs. Its just been press talk. Yes, but I think that this occasion is a little bit more than 'the norm'. I hope we will hear from him today, now that they are all (as I understand it) together, for the start of pre-season training.

Is he quoted for saying the opposite? By deliberately not saying anything (he knows people are concerned about it) he is effectively "saying the opposite by omission" - YES! (Myself, actually think he is staying - but he should SPEAK!)

I f****** hope so...we've got £50 million to spend, sure we can afford to buy someone better than a 31 yr who is out for 6 months. You waiting for the trophy signings like? f*** the squad. Let's get Kaka! Nope not waiting for the trophy signings but surely we can do better. Ashley has the intelligence, never to let the world know how much we have to spend on players. The oft-quoted figure is pure guesswork, of unknown origin (unlikely to be the oft-quoted origin though!) We may have £150m (or more) or maybe just £20M, for this close season. WE WILL NEVER KNOW, but my own view is that it is two things: (1) A flexible amount. (2) An awful LOT!!!

Have faith in our new Owner, our new Deputy Chairman, and our new Manager. They will be every bit as aware, as we are, about the 'last day of the transfer window' type of possibilities. They will be dealing with it - right now! We are a club in a different world, to that of the recent past. A totally different world. Can't emphasise that enough. So it seems. But however often you say it though, it doesn't stop it from coming accross as being based on very little other than blind optimism. We all have our hopes for our new owner getting it right, but come on. I just cannot work out where you get the 'blind optimism' idea from! One of the United Kingdoms most successful "winners" (as a businessman) has decided to spend £133M as his latest business venture - taking over one of Englands biggest (lets not go on about that word!!) Premier League football clubs. To say that I do not expect him to fail to obtain his desired end product (SUCCESS) in as short a time as is possible - is NOT me adopting "blind optimism" We all need to adjust to the new world we are already in. We are already in that new world NOW.

Perfectly summed up. And, that is the thing that excites me (personally) the most. We are obviously building a squad of VERY GOOD players / professionals, before we go on to dip into (probably) the 'Ashley' money, for the really TOP players, as the 'cream on the coffee'! The very high-quality squad building (almost an entire defence and reserve defenders needed, for example) will go on for a while yet. T H E N . . . . . . !!!!

Have faith in our new Owner, our new Deputy Chairman, and our new Manager. They will be every bit as aware, as we are, about the 'last day of the transfer window' type of possibilities. They will be dealing with it - right now! We are a club in a different world, to that of the recent past. A totally different world. Can't emphasise that enough.

It is recognised on the UEFA board if you read the history of the UEFA CUp , the thing is that they no longer show the list of ICFC winners as the competition was not ran by them at the time. They took control of the competion in 1971. This is fair enough as the FA dont show Carling Cup results on their site do they! This "it was an invitation" only competition is a load of bollocks as well. The ICFC was invitation in its first two years of existence but there again, the first World Cup was "invitation" only as were the first few FA Cups. Are you sure you are not a smoggie??? Yes Wally - that type of 'not even a recognised tournament' / 'it was an invitation-only tournament when we went into it' type of comment, is indeed VERY reminiscent (almost word-for-word identical) to the idiotic comments a number of Smoggie supporters have often written (and even after correction continue to write) about our Fairs Cup win. Don't think gggg is one though! Very strange words, nonetheless!!

Not putting it down MP, it's just that if you have the debate with rival fans (as I often have had), the Intercity Fairs (or UEFA as it now is) doesn't carry as much weight as say the FA cup. Maybe because no-one's really heard of the ICF cup. The European Champions League used to be called the European Cup. The UEFA Cup used to be called the European Fairs Cup (previously the Inter Cities Fairs Cup) The European Cup Winners Cup - doesnt even exist now. So, the names may change, but we have played in the Fairs Cup/UEFA Cup, a LOT of times (as well as the Champions League and Cup Winners Cup occasionally) - so I cannot believe that ANY real Newcastle United supporter of any age (or our equivalents from other clubs) does not know all about them!!

Kitman says - "Whereas we haven't won a major domestic trophy since the 50's". Why do you refer to that like that ('domestic' trophy) - though undeniably correct. Most of us who enjoyed our Fairs Cup win, enjoyed it more than we would have enjoyed the League Cup or FA Cup, at the time. It was after all, our first season ever, in Europe. A great win, and only ("only"!!!!!!) 38 years ago . . . .

Excellent summary. Describes exactly how I feel about things. Our future is going to be so very different to our recent past. I am certain of that!

That particular bit of "pre-Ashley" history, is about as relevant (to us NOW) as where we finished in the league in 1977 or 1927!! So the league position last season doesn't count because our chairman has a bit of money? In which case West Ham are one of the biggest clubs in England now too. It is a very different thing to add a rich English (successful) businessmans money (where needed) to an already major (and big spending) large club like ours, than it is to have some unknown person buying into a traditionally 2nd/3rd tier club like West Ham!!! It is the combination of factors that make the (large) difference. I am sure you know that really!