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That's Valbuena non?

Offers nothing as an attacking source except for the odd free kick he gets.

Stronger? We're 3 strikers light than what we had 12 months ago. Like I said I'm including Ba in this mess. From the start of the season until 2 league games ago we had - Ba, Cisse & Ameobi. We were only playing with 1 out and out forward so 3 strikers should have been enough. If we had of persisted with Ba on the left of a 3 with Marv/Obertan as a replacement for him in that position should he get injured or need to cover for Cisse then I think those 3 should have been sufficient for us to be in a higher league position.

I'd go along with shit manager and injuries.

I'd say out squad is stronger (obviously minus Ba but he's only been gone 2 league games) now than it was from January onwards last season, our results from August to January with Ba included in the squad have been down to a different reason than our transfer policy.

I dont think he meant grant holt was a luxury player, more it was a luxury over us as they had another striker on the bench. Woooah those type of comments aren't allowed.

That transfer policy has got us to 16th to which you'll reply but we have players like ben arfa etc. We are 16th mainly because of a flawed transfer policy. What got us to 5th that we aren't doing now as we had the same transfer policy then.

Seemed to be giving other players grief when he was losing the ball, his passing/crossing is still diabolical.

He looks better when he's running at players in the final 1/3, I'd be encouraging him to do this more, sometimes he seems to take the option to pass instead of using a change of pace.

Why does it have to be a plan though? Surely they should be good enough to use their initiative in our attacking play.

Don't think it's as easy as setting the response time for 'today'.

In the first half we invited pressure by over committing when attacking.

I'd say it was a better performance than our game last season and we were actually a pretty decent team then.

Yeah my bad.

Did we have any right to assume we could take the lead at Old Trafford?

Going by some of the reactions on here I wouldn't be surprised. Oh I forgot, were we playing a top 4 no. We were playing a team that had lost their last 4 league games. Pathetic as usual. They've beat Arsenal and Man Utd at home this season, we had chances in the first half which if better final balls had of been played were scoring opportunities. For me it was a 'meh' performance, we didn't play well but we also weren't as awful as some seem to think.

Krul Debuchy Taylor Colo Santon Cabaye Anita Remy Marv Jonas Cisse

In the shit we are in I'd be terrified of losing also, Greg hit the nail on the head.

Going by some of the reactions on here I wouldn't be surprised.

He's probably playing against players he's never heard of or watched footage of. Steady enough debut was hardly expecting him to have a blinder.

Were people really expecting us to play like Barca today? We're in horrendous form and we need every point that we can. Yes we went long at times and i'd wager most of this was from Williamson. Cabaye and Anita did try to hit Cisse with a long diagonal a few times. People need to have a bit of a reality check as to where we are and what we are trying to achieve which unfortunately is to avoid being relegated. We were never going to go and win 4-0 like some seem to have been expecting. You don't come out of the type of form we are in after 1 game.

Jonas and Perch should have played him in today if the pass had of been better, second half he was isolated.

First half he should have been played in by Perch and Jonas.

Is there a limit to how many people you can put on the ignore list?

Calm down, the amount of anger people show on here makes me wonder how they cope with other day to day activities.