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We're not going to win, we're not going to draw. We're in for a hammering. The most I can hope from this game is that Faye gives Essien and Mikel a fucking good kicking. Hate the pair of them.

I wouldn't say its the fans that much tbf. If you havn't gone to your local newsagents yet this morning, I honestly suggest you do, or go on the websites of all the newspapers. Fucking hell, nearly every single one is reporting about the situation at our club. They're baying for blood! Honestly, I think I've heard more on the TV/radio about Allardyce facing the sack than I have of the killing of Benazir Bhutto!

wouldn't care about Barton being banged up if it was that little fucker he punched.

and to settle an earlier score, it's "ludicrous" btw. I flooked my B in A-level English Lang.

My Dad (not at all tongue in cheek), said "fuck the lot of them, I can't be arsed with that club anymore"

hahahahaa, my mother, who is a social worker "we'll he'll never get to work with kids now..."

can he play? I'm not that in touch with the judicial system (probably another incorrect spelling from me)

Interesting post. I agree that financially it makes sense to keep the key backroom staff. Doesn't mean we have to keep to organ grinder though. Incidentally, what does ludacris mean? I can't find it on dictionary.com. is it not actually a word like? Me mother uses it all the time! Means rediculous

in custody til Jan 3rd

had SSN on since I woke up, and they periodically keep going back to the situation at our beloved(?) club, saying "Sam is up against it", "Sam is on the brink" etc etc etc. They've had Darren Lewis on from the Mirror, reviewing a Sun article, and saying that Sam faces an uphill struggle, that the team that lost to Wigan contained 5 of his own signings - basically it's his fault. They keep mentioning that Ashley sits with the fans, and "they'll be telling him what they think". (Just to digress, has anyone bumped into him at any games? Did they have a conversation with him and tell him what they think? A little bit more press bullshit methinks). All in all, the press appear to be calling for Sam's head more than the fans - so they have something to write about. However, after clambering out of my pit, and sipping on a black coffee (and burning my tongue), I began to think about the logical consequence of sacking Sam. And my conclusion is that it would only mean we would have no manager, and perhaps a clean-ish slate to try and clamber up the table in the vain hope of getting an Intertoto spot. My first thought about whether we'll give Sam the boot is in the financial cost. Immediately I thought of the cost to Mr. Ashley. Allardyce hasn't even seen out a year of his contract, and I'm quite sure he won't be employed as our manager on a paltry sum of money. Then, on top of that, there's the cost of all his kronies. When most managers are sacked, their assistant(s) and perhaps a first-team coach go too. A total of 5/6 people tops. However, we get rid of Sam, and we're laying off 20-odd people IIRC. Moreover, if I am to believe the bullshit I am fed through what we call the British Press, Sam has only just finished building this mass collection of "backroom staff". If Mort (with Ashley's money) was prepared to keep backing him as far as perhaps 2 weeks ago, then to sack him would be a ludacris, knee-jerk reaction, because let's face it, no other manager in the world will want all the "sports science performance long-ball-to-viduka-and/or-smith analysers" knocking about at Darsley Park on a day-to-day basis. We're getting the impression that Ashley isn't prepared to hand over large sums of money to Sam to spend in January, so to spend it on laying off staff wouldn't make sense. Argubly it might help to take the club forward, but on the other hand it causes upheaval amongst the players in the middle of the season at a time when the new manager would have to settle with what he has to try and take the club forward. However, I would much rather Ashley/Mort (let's call them Ashmort) gave Allardyce the vocal/financial backing in January to go out and make signings to improve the team. For fucks sake, a blind chimp can see we lack creativity in midfield! Moreover, there is the cost that Sam has already had to Ashley. He gave him money to spend in the summer, and Sam spent it. Some signings have worked (Beye, Faye) and others havn't (Smith, Barton). And some don't even get a game! (Enrique). As I mentioned before, Ashley doesn't appear to be prepared to spend his money hand over fist, and so to have already given him however much it all came to, only to then sack him, just doesn't make logical sense. If Ashley never wanted Sam in the first place, he should have gotten rid as soon as he took over the club in the summer - it wouldn't be strange, we've seen managers last days/weeks before. I couldn't watch the Derby game as I was travelling to the capital, but from what I've read, Sam was telling the players to do things, and they weren't doing it. Fair enough, some if this lies with the coaches, who can't be doing their jobs properly, but also the players. They've avoided the stick from so many in recent years (even with Bobby's sacking - Kieron "little cunt" Dyer refusing to play on the right). It's about time that lot took a long hard look at themselves, regardless or not if Sam signed them, and counted their lucky stars that they ever made it in the Premier League to earn millions. Then perhaps when they've learned to appreciate their cushy lifestyles and count themselves fortunate, they think about the poor fuckers that spend money to give them that. For fucks sake, is it really asking too much?

How can you be sure of that? Ashley loves Smith and Mort is a lawyer. Why does that lead you to believe that they are s*** hot at choosing football managers? [/NE5] good post! My mind tells me that Mort will have virtually no say in who is appointed, Ashley owns the club and is a fan, - it's his club. I get the impression a replacement will be pretty much his choice, with Mort only coming into the fold when it comes to discussing wages, length of contract etc. And my assumption is that Ashley will want a big name manager (ie. foreign) and may just perhaps be prepared to break the bank in order to get that person. All in all it's little Mike's birthday party. It's his party so everyone will let him do what he wants and have his way.

fucking dreading the Chelsea game. Think I'm going to spend the day in a cupboard, or in a cave down Tynemouth.

HMP Strangeways but they are likely to get him on free anyway. stick him in Durham. Then we can go to the top of the Cathedral, and when he's in the exercise yard we can jeer him.

if he got put in Her Maj's hotel, would we be able to sack him without a fuck off big payment?

http://www.skysports.com/football/papertalk/0,21673,12709,00.html ask him who his dealer is please, I've had a rough past few days...

can't even sell him :-[ which club would seriously buy him?

why do 5 live feel the need to switch commentators during games? I raised this question whilst in the car with my mother (who has very little understanding of football) and she said "could you talk for 90 minutes?" to which my reply was "yes, especially when there's something happening to talk about. Besides, Radio Newcastle, Metro/Magic, even TV commentators manage just fine". I have really never understood why they keep alternating commentators during a game. It fucking vexes me too!

urgh I can't even watch this one. The disadvantage of having a cockernee mother is that you have to spend every fucking Christmas in London, so I'll be glued to the radio on the way down. And whilst you are all listening to/watching the lads at Wigan, me and the father are indulging in Millwall vs. Brighton

Christ. I thought we'd got shot of him. Are there no strip clubs in the East End, like? nah, just seedy pubs, snooker halls, pie and mash shops and a shitload of market stalls.

we all know the bloke is king of the t*** population, and we all dislike him. I posted an error he made in a thread earlier in the week (I forgot what it was!) So I thought I'd start a thread where all these f****** clueless blunders can be collected into one big space. Then, when we have built up a sufficient enough portfolio, I'll happily send them to the Don of the Ronny Gill and suggest that they sack this clueless fuckwit once and for all. What other journalists make up such s****/such errors??? Here's the starting point, He confuses Didier Zokora with Bobby Zamora.... http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/2007/12/22/don-t-hold-back-lads-72703-20279913/

haha my mackem mate is so irate on MSN I'm sat here pissing myself laughing! All he's done is post abuse about referees

wasn't there under Robson was he?

where can you get names put on the back of those shirts? As my grandad collar one is a medium boys (I was about 9 at the time), I've inherited me dads Large mans one that I wear for matches. I had Ferdinand 10 on mine, and its now used as a seat cover for the swivel chair next to my desk - but if I could send the large mans away somewhere, I'd definitely have Asprilla put on it....

yeah, just read the article online. Fair enough Crouch's tackle was bad, but then for Mikel (or his agents) to come out and then say this really does take the piss for fucks sake. Racist??? He should go and play in Turkey/Serbia or somewhere then he'll see what racism really is

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