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You can use that fact, if it's not the players natural position. It was his positional sense that let him down not his touch or balance. If he was correctly positioned he would have been correctly balanced and potentially made a better first touch. You can't use it as an excuse for him though. It's the same as putting Demba Ba in goal and letting him off for f***ing up 'cos he's out of position'. I would potentially let the player off, but not the manager. If a player is out of position, and their positioning is wrong in said position, it's either down to human error, or poor coaching - I'm going to suggest it's the former based on our defensive record and if so one human error isn't enough to make him a poor defender. The same way playing in a team that has the best defensive record after 12 games in the Premier doesn't make him a world beater.

His positioning and body shape were wrong for the second - something you could maybe forgive a player for, baring in mind he is arguably a midfielder and he was on his wrong side i.e. Left Back. It's probably happened a few times this season in less dangerous positions, with lower quality opposition who haven't done the ultimate damage...although that's not something I could say was 100% correct, I reckon it probably is. You're not wrong in your criticism, I just hope people don't think this justifies him being kicked out the team. As for the first, any player that close to their own goal makes themselves as large as possible, and as hard to beat as possible. An opposition player wont be looking at the defender thinking "His arms are out let's get the penalty." They'll be thinking "f***ing hell, where do I put this" or "I'll just smack it." I don't think Raylor did a great lot wrong here, and I'm not saying you are, but a number on here are just waiting for people like Raylor to fail. If the same happened with a more liked player (possibly Saylor) or a younger player (Santon) then not as many would complain, in my opinion. I think our back four have been outstanding, as has Tim Krul this season, and the stats reflect that. I could be wrong but I don't seem to remember Krul having too many saves to make at the weekend, despite Shiteh's domination. That's pays testament to our full team, but more specifically our back 5. Raylor is more than a squad player at the moment, he's a key player for me, as are the other 4 in the back 5. Their performances have alone have laid the foundation for the midfield and strike force to do their thing. That's not to say anyone else has under-performed, just that this has been the bigegst factor in our success to date. The best defence in the league despite the fact we have played Shiteh, Spuds and Arsenal, not to mention tough away trips to Stoke, Wolves and the scum, says it all really. Sorry Sifu, I don't mean to single you out... Agree with pretty much all that, a very good post. But, I don't see him as a key player. The bit in bold is something I also noticed and it's a really promising sign. We can go away to one of the best sides in Europe, manage a few decent attempts at goal ourself, whilst also limit the opposition's shots on target. In the end, they needed two penalties and a f*** up from one of our players to get their goals. Not saying they couldn't have stepped it up a gear if needed, but I feel it's still worth pointing out . Fair enough. I just think he currently is, based on our defensive record. That back 5 are all our key players atm. You're right though in the rest of your post, people need to take that into deep consideration.

You can use that fact, if it's not the players natural position. It was his positional sense that let him down not his touch or balance. If he was correctly positioned he would have been correctly balanced and potentially made a better first touch.

I didn't say it wasn't a mistake. Both were mistakes - but all I'm saying is that they weren't ridiculous mistakes as some people make out.

I agree with most of what you say and the sentiment behind it, however, Ryan Taylor is certainly not a key player in this NUFC side, nor will he ever will be. He wasn't even a 'key player' in the Championship. He's key while the team perform and get results like they have been though. However, on paper he wouldn't be...

In England... Local non-league/lower league teams Plymouth (added this in after people brought it to my attention) Scotland... Rangers (only for the pro-Britannia-ness) France... Marseille (Went when we played them and f***ing loved it) Holland... PSV - Seem to remember us playing them quite a bit in the 90's and 00's. Germany... Schalke (think they seem similar to us) Dortmund (used to like their strip and they were good at the time) Portugal... None. Italy... AC Milan - Seedorf, Davids? (think they had several players I liked as a kid) Spain... Barcelona (played them in the champions league and best team I will ever see) Valencia (went there as a teenager and liked the place) Villareal (Exciting team and canny nice strips)

Hate: Man United (jealousy and the glory supporters) Man City (the Sunderland of Manchester and the fans are utter cunts) Chelsea (Egotistical toss pots, with lots of money and wankers for fans) Stoke (I probably hate these most from a neutral point of view, they are the anti-football of football) S*nderland (Local derby and generally poxy, shitty, little club) Dislike: Tottenham (media wankfest) Wigan (shitty little club that are out of their depth) Blackburn (as above) Bolton (as above, but I don't mind them as much as I used to) Liverpool (jealousy and media wankfest. Think the fans think they're super-fans. Wolves (a shit Stoke) Aston Villa (small time wankers for fans, especially re: our relegation) Irrelevant / Kind of like: Arsenal (good footballing side) Fulham (good footballing side and all round friendly club) Norwich (mean nowt to me) QPR (as above) Everton (hard working club but mean nowt to me) West Brom (irrelevant) Swansea (they're Welsh, they're irrelevant in football) Absolutely adore with all my heart: NEWCASTLE UNITED (Born here, lived here, will die here, will be cremated here and ashes dumped here)

Basel. The fuckers are running away with my £120 the thieving Swiss cheese.

The fucking great mouse detective wants to piss off.

Part of the best defensive 5 in the league, stay as long as you can and keep improving Danny...

His positioning and body shape were wrong for the second - something you could maybe forgive a player for, baring in mind he is arguably a midfielder and he was on his wrong side i.e. Left Back. It's probably happened a few times this season in less dangerous positions, with lower quality opposition who haven't done the ultimate damage...although that's not something I could say was 100% correct, I reckon it probably is. You're not wrong in your criticism, I just hope people don't think this justifies him being kicked out the team. As for the first, any player that close to their own goal makes themselves as large as possible, and as hard to beat as possible. An opposition player wont be looking at the defender thinking "His arms are out let's get the penalty." They'll be thinking "f***ing hell, where do I put this" or "I'll just smack it." I don't think Raylor did a great lot wrong here, and I'm not saying you are, but a number on here are just waiting for people like Raylor to fail. If the same happened with a more liked player (possibly Saylor) or a younger player (Santon) then not as many would complain, in my opinion. I think our back four have been outstanding, as has Tim Krul this season, and the stats reflect that. I could be wrong but I don't seem to remember Krul having too many saves to make at the weekend, despite Shiteh's domination. That's pays testament to our full team, but more specifically our back 5. Raylor is more than a squad player at the moment, he's a key player for me, as are the other 4 in the back 5. Their performances have alone have laid the foundation for the midfield and strike force to do their thing. That's not to say anyone else has under-performed, just that this has been the bigegst factor in our success to date. The best defence in the league despite the fact we have played Shiteh, Spuds and Arsenal, not to mention tough away trips to Stoke, Wolves and the scum, says it all really. Sorry Sifu, I don't mean to single you out...

I put a last minute pound bet on ManUre to draw, Shiteh to draw, Lyon to draw and Otelul Whosyadaddy to draw too...fucking smeg. The bastards stole £5 off me for an inadvertant double click. Sky are ruining the game.

Skybet just stole £5 from me. The robbing bastards.

I beg your pardon? Doesn't matter, the moment has passed. Sammy > Fabricio.

100% wrong. Only joking squire xx

I beg your pardon?

I'd play Ryan Taylor as well but if he was making ricks like that for 90 minutes then we'd have lost about 40-0. ...and we didn't so, it's all kinky sex romps on the Newcastle horizon.

Sammy's a clever guy, he went to Heaton Manor.

We missed Leon best last Saturday, that's not to say either of the front two were poor, they just weren't quite what we needed for the majority of the game.

Them Claret and Blue wankers will do us a favour tonight.

Ryan Taylor should without a doubt be in the first 11 for Saturday. He wasn't made a mug for about 86 of the 90minutes and to be fair we didn't exactly hold the ball up well. To drop him for those four minutes would be no different to dropping Ba (who I also wouldn't drop). Was very proud of our lads last Saturday despite the result, and 1 game in 12 is not enough for things to change, especially when your playing a fantasy football side, and still have the best defence in the league.

Would prefer Adidas...or Slazenger.

Hopefully he fucks off there permanently.

Gutierrez is the dogs bollocks like.

Aye got to shut Silva down, i also think we need to pin their full backs in, they provide the width for them, and get forward relentlessly. I think it's important that we go into this game without a defeatist attitude as a team. We have equally dangerous members of our team, and a team spirit that's not to be questioned. It could also be an idea, that when defending Ba tucks in on the left, and everyone slides right (as daft as it sounds) pushing Ben Arfa up with Best and Jonas in to cover Silva. This would mean we would have a very hard-working defensive set up which would quickly change to a widespread attacking four with the ball, a target man and goalscorer upfront. Just an idea like, not necessarily what I'd do.