themanupstairs

Honestly, what a an absolute load of Daily Mail sanctimonious s****. Is it right? No of course not. Should we have all evolved where we can sit back like good citizens and 'let the authorities deal with in the appropriate way?' Probably. But that's not the way it is and those Liverpool fans who took their chances in the home end, they f***ing knew it's the way it is as well. if I sat in the Kop or in the Stretford End or with mackems in their own end, then I know how this works and would behave appropriately. Gan on like arseholes? Sorry but I hope every one of them got a clip. I'm not one bit pro violence in any shape or form. Having said that, if I'm sat in my club's home stadium with my bairns and a jumped up away fan who thinks he's clever getting into our home end starts trouble or unnecessary bollocks, you better bet I'm standing my ground and defending my own. I wouldn't wait for a f***ing steward. This. Was there with my 11 year old son in the East Stand and he'd never seen anything like that at a match before, felt a bit uncomfortable with him there to be quite honest......luckily we weren't right next to it. My Grandad who spent 30 years in the Army including WW2 always taught me 'to respect your hosts, wherever you are in the World' and it's something I've always lived by. Behave like that, and accept the consequences in my opinion, it hasn't even got anything to do with football. More pompous twaddle from HTT, I can only assume he wasn't actually there. So you would be happy to fill someone in at the match, even with your 11 year old next to you? Even though you said watching others do it was uncomfortable? Or are only accepting it when other people do it? I just don't get this giving people a kicking thing, no matter what. They should be hoyed out if they play up but people don't deserves having their head kicked in for being a bit of an idiot and celebrating in the home end. And people wonder why football fans are treated like s*** by the police. What are you talking about, I haven't mentioned 'filling anyone in' at all? It was a question because you said it was uncomfortable at first but then went on to condone the Liverpool fans getting filled in when you said they should accept the consequences. So I was a bit confused, and wondering if you meant you were happy to condone it when other people were giving it out or if you would do the same. Where did I 'condone them getting filled in' exactly? "Behave like that, and accept the consequences in my opinion" Where did I mention anyone getting 'filled in'? You were responding to, and agreeing with, a post about not waiting for stewards / officials / police etc. and dealing with it yourself in the context of a load of Liverpool fans getting a smack. He mentioned standing his ground, but that was it, you've filled in the blanks yourself. I'll say it again, act like that in a provocative manner and you should accept the consequences......whether that is you getting chucked out of the ground, arrested, or in verbal/physical confrontations with other fans. Fair enough until the last point, I just don't see how that fits with you being uncomfortable with it in front of your kids but then it also being totally acceptable to you. I found it acceptable when they were chucked out of the ground, which is one of the consequences I was talking about. Did you not feel the same? That's fine. You may not have intended to insinuate what you have. The only bit I can't get my head around is this view (not necessarily from you) from many that it is acceptable for people to get their heads kicked in if they have acted like a bit of dick. Obviously if a Liverpool fan starts a fight and someone is defending themselves that is slightly different but there seems to be a relatively widespread view that any Liverpool fans that celebrated a goal in the home end were fair game for a good kicking. They should be removed etc. but doesn't make violence acceptable. Celebrating a goal is one thing. Goading, gesturing, giving it the two fingers, chucking drink, and any other kind of physical intimidation would only heighten emotions and provoke others to do the same. And then you could have hell on. This isn't the Tour De France for fuck's sake. It's football. Purely a game of emotions. And if people are going to disrespect others, especially their hosts, then they only have themselves to blame if said hosts retaliate. It's like condoning the behavior of English fans (or any other for that matter) away at international tournaments if they decided to get drunk and smash places around them. Just a bit of banter mate, no one deserves their heads kicked in for destroying their hosts' livelihoods.

Honestly, what a an absolute load of Daily Mail sanctimonious shite. Is it right? No of course not. Should we have all evolved where we can sit back like good citizens and 'let the authorities deal with in the appropriate way?' Probably. But that's not the way it is and those Liverpool fans who took their chances in the home end, they fucking knew it's the way it is as well. if I sat in the Kop or in the Stretford End or with mackems in their own end, then I know how this works and would behave appropriately. Gan on like arseholes? Sorry but I hope every one of them got a clip. I'm not one bit pro violence in any shape or form. Having said that, if I'm sat in my club's home stadium with my bairns and a jumped up away fan who thinks he's clever getting into our home end starts trouble or unnecessary bollocks, you better bet I'm standing my ground and defending my own. I wouldn't wait for a fucking steward.

Fucking hell that’s sad, urgh. Liverpool winning the league sends out a message to your on club they too can win the league without being bankrolled by a terrorist state. If that’s what makes you feel your own club not winning the league more bearable though hey, that’s what it’s all about no... Sorry, but I just don’t get this kind of rationalising! Let's not pretend that Liverpool haven't spent ridiculous money in order to compete too like; their squad cost about £550 million - that's hardly a message of hope to the rest of the league they're no underdog story like Leicester so Man City's spending becomes significantly less relevant in terms of deciding who you want to win it Yup. And fair play to them but they're no fucking underdogs man. As if the likes of Solanke and Ings were worth anywhere neat the money they got for them. Their transfer love-in with Southampton and Bournemouth is dodgy as fuck IMO.

Spot on. People go on about it being good for the game if Liverpool win the title. As if they haven't spent hundreds of millions and bought favour with refs like the much maligned Chelsea and Man City. Utter nonsense. Aye, let’s just support the isis of football owners because Liverpool man, we’ll never hear the end of it on social media and remember when they killed all those Juventus fans which by the way, was nowt compared to their behaviour at SJP Saturday evening. Every penny Liverpool have spent on players they’ve generated as a club from within and not from some sovereign murdering terrorist state or a wealthy criminal like Abramovic. How anyone could want Man City to win the league and not Liverpool defies all logic. One is loathsome in a football sense, the other is loathsome on a human level. You cannot have a heart, mind or soul if you prefer Man City, just on a football level never mind anything else. If you’re gonna use certain sticks to beat Liverpool with, that’s fine, but be reminded, all football is corrupt, bent and ugly. Man City are no different, and neither is their owners are who corrupt, bent and ugly in real life even more. If you can’t bear Liverpool winning the league because of the OTT jizz fest by all and sundry, you can limit your exposure and cut it all out by not listening to or reading Rawk, social media, Sky, MOTD, newspapers, pundits, ex players or any of the others’ guff which may free up your time which I recommend you use to read up on the owners of Man City and their crimes against humanity and after that you can read about their crimes against football in whatever order you care most about. How about doping and financial fair play? If Liverpool win the league I won’t have to bear any OTT love in because their win will pass quickly, noted but forgotten about because I just don’t give a damn what others say or their fans want to add to it with. Why would anyone not connected to them be any more bothered? Ironically the most level headed, more humble, least arrogant and more unconcerned with what others have to say will be every day people on Merseyside who from experience you’d think were not the same people as those on RAWK, social media, SKY, BT, MOTD and any other platform that generalises fans of Liverpool as self pitying, special, it’s never their fault, we are victims, it means more to us, loveable scallywags everyone seems to hate them for. On every level you have no humanity if you hate them more than Man City and if that’s true, you’re even more detestable than they are both combined and hopefully you’ll be consumed by your hatred of them even more for beating City to the title. I hope it hurts like hell, as a Newcastle supporter would it, seriously? Wow man what a whopper. Who the fuck are you to think you're going to teach me about morality, humanity and hate? I don't need lessons from you about Man City's owners because I knew exactly who and what they were before you'd even heard of their names. I don't give a shit about Man City or Chelsea because I'm not surrounded by their fans, plastic or otherwise. I am, however, surrounded by the most ignorant plastic Liverpool fans you've ever seen, and my "hate" for Liverpool and their fans stops at a football banter level and doesn't extend to real life. Liverpool provided me, in footballing terms, the most painful memory in my time supporting NUFC and my so-called friends lorded it over me for years, so why should I not want to do the same? Ultimately you seem to have a special love for Liverpool buried deep down inside you, and wishing "hurt feelings" upon your fellow Newcastle supporters purely in defence of that rancid club winning the title is petty. Ironically that's what you're trying to accuse "us Liverpool haters" of. Get off your high horse man and if YOU don't like that people can't stand LFC and/or their fans, then you can simply stop reading about it.

They deserve it if they're inciting trouble and provoking reactions. Emotions run high at a football match and a riot can easily be started by only a handful of morons. So for the case of keeping the general peace, ironically, if they get a hiding then so be it. The whole thing was irresponsible be it our fans who sold their tickets, scousers and the club.

Spot on. People go on about it being good for the game if Liverpool win the title. As if they haven't spent hundreds of millions and bought favour with refs like the much maligned Chelsea and Man City. Utter nonsense.

Been quite good since coming into the team. Hopefully improve on both him and Yedlin in the summer and ship one of them out (preferably Yedlin).

No he didn't. Manquillo raised his foot to make a clearance and connected with the ball and Mane's head slightly with his shin and not his boot, hence why the ref gave nothing.

Refs will make sure City don't win it now. This is absolute bullshit. Oh right, so the linesman from last night just made an honest mistake eh?

Yes they are but I fear their title was won at St James' last night. Refs will make sure City don't win it now.

Same as when Leicester won the league. The title is Liverpool's and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

When are people going to wake up and realise that the PL is littered with corruption and bent refs?

I'm fucking livid with that. That thundercunt Mariner and his assistant were assigned to this game to make sure every decision went Liverpool's way. Scum of the fucking earth. Liverpool with proper players and proper fans, fuck off. Really hope City win on Monday and Barca pummel them into the ground at klanfield. Fabinho is a dirty cheating cunt. Sturridge is an embarrassment to the sport. Laughable how shit he is.

Yup same. Maybe it's hyperbole but at this stage, Rafa IS bigger than the club. Reason being is that he embodies everything we wish the club to be; hard working, honest, excels at his job and feels genuine love and a sense of pride being a part of it. Rafa is not bigger then the club. Would love for him to stay but it won't be the end of the world if he leaves. There will be a time when he won't be here, sooner or later. The most important thing is to get rid of Ashley. He's the real cancer and nothing will change as long as he is here. In a perfect world Ashley leaves and Rafa stays though. Obviously the club is bigger than any one person, except whoever happens to own it. If it's a straight battle between Ashley and Benitez though I'll side with Benitez over Ashley's version of NUFC any day. Symbolically speaking.

That's true but it says a lot about the rancid decision making at that club. Long may it continue.

Yup same. Maybe it's hyperbole but at this stage, Rafa IS bigger than the club. Reason being is that he embodies everything we wish the club to be; hard working, honest, excels at his job and feels genuine love and a sense of pride being a part of it.

Still can't believe they gave the job to that little tramp Solskjaer. There was no need to make it permanent at that stage whatsoever. Another monumental fuck-up and couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch. They'll be the new Liverpool now doing things based on emotions and past glory. Ole's at the wheel my fkn arse.

Class today. One of the best tackle assists you're likely to see. Happy to hear the ovation he got when he was taken off.

I've been a critic of him and still think we need to replace with better. Having said that, I'd have him in the team if he could perform the way he did today consistently. That header leading up to the 3rd goal sums up his desire and determination. Immense.

Yup. Deservedly keeping Yedlin out of the team. Should keep his place for the last 3 games.

Overrated at LB. Very much underrated at CB. Superb today.

I'm in two minds on this one. On the one hand I know Rafa and most of my mates/relatives would be happy with Liverpool winning the title so despite hating that club for years I could finally stomach being nonchalant about it. On the other hand, if we were to rip the title out of their hands in our last home game, and with it rip out their hearts it would be the sweetest revenge for the 4-3 that I could imagine.

The fans should never allow this to happen

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