Neil

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Did he just label Cleverley as "irresistible"?

Wales getting a good seeing to in Serbia. Meanwhile in Glasgow, Scotland having a titanic 1-1 draw with Macedonia thus far.

Cleverley.

Didn't see it all but did that come from Lescott's woeful pass? Not surprising if so.

How?

Educate the fans. Piss off Townsend.

I try to avoid Italy and France as much as possible. Rarely reliable, and especially the case when they have an "easy" game - a -1 bet automatically means they win 1-0.

Not normally one to cheer when Scotland get beat but if that stays the same it might convince some of their fans that the team isn't as good as they think. I'm fully aware a lot of English fans and the media are guilty of this, I just couldn't understand how many Scottish supports believed they should've walked all over Serbia. They did? Fucking hell. That's worryingly delusional if that's the case.

See, easy.

I'd agree with that, if nothing else due to the difference in positions. I wouldn't trust Gerrard/Lampard to do the job in 2 years but I would trust Cole. Worry about Wilshere, absolutely massive layoff at such a young age. Hope he isn't rushed back though ultimately. Btw I've got nothing against Baines as I think he's developed into a top drawer attacking full-back. What's he like defensively Neil? As I've never really watched Everton enough to have a fully informed opinion of that aspect of his game. I'd be kidding myself if I said he was great defensively. He's decent and improving but he does have an error in him. Remember a couple of times for example last season he got caught out by his starting position, and it led to a goal. That's what made Cole, in his prime, so good. Solid defensively and a real asset going forward. It's an incredibly tough position to play in a positional sense, it should be said. I just think at this moment in time, it's the right time to put confidence in Baines at national level.

3 minutes later they're 2-0 down.

Djordjevic scores and takes his shirt off. Most pointless booking in the history of the game? It's San Marino ffs. Wasn't he the bloke who was a CM 01/02 legend of the Cherno Samba ilk?

I'd agree with that, if nothing else due to the difference in positions. I wouldn't trust Gerrard/Lampard to do the job in 2 years but I would trust Cole. Worry about Wilshere, absolutely massive layoff at such a young age. Hope he isn't rushed back though ultimately.

He is, but I'm hoping they use this as an opportunity to promote Baines to first choice. What sort of message does it send if we go back to Cole? Not saying Cole hasn't been or isn't still a very good player, btw. Cole's better than him though so he still should be playing. Defensively he is currently, yes. But he's also not as good as he was a couple of years ago while Baines has improved exponentially and at this moment, especially against poorer teams in our group, it makes perfect sense to play Baines and establish him as the main left back for England.

GOL GOL GOL Romania get a 2nd before half time against Andorra.

No need to discuss that sort of stuff. My post was directed to Dinho. Never mind, I know my humour is debatable. But not as funny as the bet I will post shortly.

No need to discuss that sort of stuff.

Half an hour gone vs Georgia. Calm your financially stricken passions.

He is, but I'm hoping they use this as an opportunity to promote Baines to first choice. What sort of message does it send if we go back to Cole? Not saying Cole hasn't been or isn't still a very good player, btw.

Baines has been the best left back in the league for a couple of years now, it's about time he displaces Cole.

No happy medium with Dinho.

Oh yeah, I wouldn't at all say picking Osman at this point is the right to go. Just a massive slap in the face to people like him when you see the utter dross getting caps. Doesn't play for the right club, simple as that IMO Sadly, I think this holds weight. Doesn't get noticed as much because the media don't talk about him as much.

I can never resist the Lampard FGS bet for England. I seem to remember it coming up trumps a few times tbf, including last Friday.