Neil

Massive blow for them, what's a matter with him? Hamstring. Massive blow indeed, I think we'll win fairly comfortably.

England -2 Spain -1 £10 pays £63.

What did you have for them? -2? Vucinic being out is tempting me to go towards England -2. I know Montenegro are a decent enough outfit but I think we can put them to the sword.

Vucinic out.

Get in, Barry's starting.

Klose.

You're the one sounding like a massive idiot there Messi. Fwiw we'll definitely win the next World Cup, and the one after that...

Couldn't give a shit about NI. Don't hate them, I just don't really care. This result is quite funny, mind.

I'm still ultra-confident we'll finish at least 8th, and I don't think there's a cat in hell's chance we'll finish lower than 10th. I can understand a lower top 10 prediction based on the striker problem we have. Baba's statement about being on a sharp decline though is ludicrous IMO. We have the best squad I can remember in my lifetime.

They may be a club that will benefit once the new rules kick in and there's more of a level playing field financially. They seem to have a good youth structure, and they give young players a chance at first team level. I think they must also hope that their manager stays. He's been over-achieving with them for quite a while now. I seriously doubt that the financial field will be more even in the foreseeable future. The richest clubs will still win most things. Imo, Everton are sharply on the decline. The team has gone stale and ceased progress, and the owner is not overly liquid. What will change? Denilson is nothing. An inferior player. He's still young, but it is an indictment of Wenger that he has been in the first team over the past seasons. Talk about knee jerk... Pienaar aside we've just tied all of our best players to long term deals and have good youth coming through We're 17th. Relegation candidates if you ask me.

HT: Azerbaijan 1-0 Turkey

8th I reckon.

I'm tempted actually. Any idea how much it would be with my student card?

Bring him along. It'll be character building.

subs do not equal ringers. I don't care about it at all. Yorkie: look above.

I'm joking. just remember there being some talk of how you apparently had loads of subs. Saw a couple there and that was about it.

Any one of the 18953142 ringers they had last time, ffs!

You sure you're OK with staying in goal Disco? Not that I'd want to volunteer myself, I'd be horrifically incompetent. Thought you did a decent job last time fwiw.

Sorted.

I'm happy to get the bus/share a taxi with Stu, Prophet and Rocker.

Cheers. not a clue where I'm going from South Gosforth metro like, I'll see if QBG fancies getting the metro together.

Greg, are you still OK to give lifts from yours? QBG, myself, Disco if I remember correctly, which I probably can't.

The Gerrard/Torres rescue act doesn't hold much strength at the moment. They're a better side with them in, obviously, but it's now more a case of making them 'less worse' as opposed to hauling them out of shit like they were doing a couple of years ago. Gerrard's on the way down and Torres doesn't look interested.

Yep.

Utterly abysmal refereeing.