The Prophet

Ryan Taylor is an abortion of a full back.

Barton didn't help either. He looked way off the pace. A lot of our play in previous games went through him, he gave the ball away countless times yesterday. When your midfield is being as ineffective as it was it will encourage the long ball game but for me it wasn't partiuclarly evident yesterday.

...but they weren't belting it up to Carroll all game they were just shite.

There's a difference between playing 4-5-1/4-4-1 and playing long ball football though.

I'm pretty sure this is a wind up, absolutely pointless stat.

Having finally got round to watching the game yesterday I'm now in a better position to comment. We weren't 'unlucky' we 'wouldn't of won on another day' we got everything we deserved. Absolutely nothing. The first half performance was completely unacceptable. The midfield trio of Smith, Barton and Nolan were dominated by Adam, when we got the ball the wingers were ineffective and Carroll looked completely isolated. Frankly Blackpool thoroughly deserved their lead. It was an unmotivated, effortless half that I've come to accept under previous regimes. You get in at half time the manager needs to react, change the game, give those dilly dallying a kick up the arse. However second half more of the same, another lacklustre display. It was evident it wasn't working but Hughton just waited and waited. When he finally made the changes it was too late. We bossed the final periods of the game and squandered a couple of fine chances as well as forcing a decent save out of Gilkes but where was this pressure and flair from the start? On the whole Blackpool deserved their win. This should be Smiths final game for us and in an ideal world Nolan will be axed too, whether Hughton would be in favour of dropping his newly appointed captain remains to be seen. I was expecting defeat at Everton before Saturday but I still want to see a reaction: a bit of fight and flair. Hughton will earn his money this week because those involved in the spineless display of the first seventy minutes need a serious kick up the arse.

Trying to exploit Perch is a bit pointlees when they can just walk straight through the centre of midfield. If they actually play one.

No matter which way you look at it this is a poor result. It's all about how we react at Goodison, if we bend over and take a hammering I'll start to worry.

That is cringeworthy to say that we can't criticize the guy. He's the worst winger I've seen play for Newcastle. I think stats will also back this up in terms of assists and goals as well. Some people are beyond help. Again name me a winger over the last 20 years that couldn't cross a ball, or even shoot properly. He's got a decent shot on him for a kick off although his crossing is hit and miss. Milner and Duff spring to mind in recent times. Decent shot I've seen one against barnsley in over 2 years now. Just look at his record, he scored 1 goal an average 30 games now. That for a midfielder is dreadful. That puts more pressure on the rest of the team to score more goals as well. Aye because I'd take Nolans goals over Gutierrez work rate every day of the week. Lets be honest we're a newly promoted side, most if not all our players have their weaknesses. It's why we won't be pushing for Europe. If we ever push on one day Jonas will probably need to be replaced but as it stands we have bigeer issues. As things currently stand he's good enough for what we are he grafts; takes men on; provides Enrique with someone to run off and provide service himself and puts the odd decent ball into the box. You need a good quality final ball in this division, he got away with it last season in championship. The same can be said of Routledge but at least he can deliver a ball, unlike this chap. He provides far more quality than Smith, Barton, Nolan et al. Again, do they play wide NO. Then they are not expected as part of their role in the team to do that. That's like saying was gary spped ever a good crosser of the ball compared to Viana. ...but they are, Nolan and Barton are supposed to be major players in the final third. The least you can say about Jonas is he commits defenders and gives Enrique plenty of oppertunities to whack a decent cross in.

That is cringeworthy to say that we can't criticize the guy. He's the worst winger I've seen play for Newcastle. I think stats will also back this up in terms of assists and goals as well. Some people are beyond help. Again name me a winger over the last 20 years that couldn't cross a ball, or even shoot properly. He's got a decent shot on him for a kick off although his crossing is hit and miss. Milner and Duff spring to mind in recent times. Decent shot I've seen one against barnsley in over 2 years now. Just look at his record, he scored 1 goal an average 30 games now. That for a midfielder is dreadful. That puts more pressure on the rest of the team to score more goals as well. Aye because I'd take Nolans goals over Gutierrez work rate every day of the week. Lets be honest we're a newly promoted side, most if not all our players have their weaknesses. It's why we won't be pushing for Europe. If we ever push on one day Jonas will probably need to be replaced but as it stands we have bigeer issues. As things currently stand he's good enough for what we are he grafts; takes men on; provides Enrique with someone to run off and provide service himself and puts the odd decent ball into the box. You need a good quality final ball in this division, he got away with it last season in championship. The same can be said of Routledge but at least he can deliver a ball, unlike this chap. He provides far more quality than Smith, Barton, Nolan et al.

That is cringeworthy to say that we can't criticize the guy. He's the worst winger I've seen play for Newcastle. I think stats will also back this up in terms of assists and goals as well. Some people are beyond help. Again name me a winger over the last 20 years that couldn't cross a ball, or even shoot properly. He's got a decent shot on him for a kick off although his crossing is hit and miss. Milner and Duff spring to mind in recent times. Decent shot I've seen one against barnsley in over 2 years now. Just look at his record, he scored 1 goal an average 30 games now. That for a midfielder is dreadful. That puts more pressure on the rest of the team to score more goals as well. Aye because I'd take Nolans goals over Gutierrez work rate every day of the week. Lets be honest we're a newly promoted side, most if not all our players have their weaknesses. It's why we won't be pushing for Europe. If we ever push on one day Jonas will probably need to be replaced but as it stands we have bigeer issues. As things currently stand he's good enough for what we are he grafts; takes men on; provides Enrique with someone to run off and provide service himself and puts the odd decent ball into the box.

That is cringeworthy to say that we can't criticize the guy. He's the worst winger I've seen play for Newcastle. I think stats will also back this up in terms of assists and goals as well. Some people are beyond help. Again name me a winger over the last 20 years that couldn't cross a ball, or even shoot properly. He's got a decent shot on him for a kick off although his crossing is hit and miss. Milner and Duff spring to mind in recent times.

That is cringeworthy to say that we can't criticize the guy. He's the worst winger I've seen play for Newcastle. I think stats will also back this up in terms of assists and goals as well. Some people are beyond help.

Doesn't mean we can't criticize the guy though. It's easy to forget his decent displays against Villa and Wolves after a result like yesterdays.

It wasn't 'one of those days' we were poor for large parts and didn't really get off the bus until it was too late. The tempo wasn't there from the start.

We've got far more pressing problems than Gutierrez.

Alright Neesy, we drop Jonas. Who do we bring it to link up with Enrique and generally fill the role he performs?

You should. I just want to see some fight from our lads after todays spineless defeat.

What's more cringeworthy than the odd person overreacting to the result is people claiming Hughton should receive no criticism what so ever when he quite rightly should be given stick for his lack of bottle. This was a poor result, our midfield looked off the pace and it took Hughton seventy minutes to react. Christ.

I'm not sure if it was respect or attitude, something was different and wrong. Nervous being favourites for the first time this season perhaps? Manager is paid so that his team are in right frame of mind etc to win the match. Can't use that as an excuse IMO. I'm not using it as an excuse.

Personally I hold Neil responsible for the defeat today, nailed on after the bastard backed us.

I'm not sure if it was respect or attitude, something was different and wrong. Nervous being favourites for the first time this season perhaps?

I wish people would give over with this Ranger shite.

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Get a fucking grip lads. No one is denying Hughton's previous good work and no one is ignoring the positves but today simply wasn't good enough. We don't know what damage this game has done yet but it's certianly undone the previous good work of the Villa result, it remians to be seen what it's done to our confidence levels. There's no excuse for his substitutions, it was evident things weren't working and he took far too long to react, and your seriously going to defend him for that? The whole 'I'm not going to criticise him for this result because of our previous results' attitude is bollocks. We'll see what he's made of this week because today we've taken one hell of a blow. If we remain unchanged next week I will be deeply disappointed in the bloke.