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It's only us and Swansea who haven't had one. Norwich missed the only one they've got.

Still think the odds are still fairly solidly on you staying up. That late Cisse goal the other week was absolutely crucial. All you need's one win, and I suspect you won't even need that. My money's on Wigan - I mean, they're playing pretty well, but 5 points with four to play is still a solid ask. Just look at things like the Figueroa injury. They probably need to get everything right from now on, whereas you only need to get it right once. And that's without coming to Villa. I do fear that Villa will beat Sunderland though - said that all along, and Di Canio coming in hasn't changed my mind.

At least. It shouldn't have been 3-3 coming into this game as it was. Honestly, I think 3-6 is the final score. Time to wrap it up.

Wigan still five points behind, and will get fuck-all out of Arsenal. Plus, Villa and Wigan can't both win that last game. I'm still confident you'll stay up.

How on earth has he not been booked yet - for either a foul or the dive?

What wound him up? I wish they'd cut him loose tbh, the meltdowns when Liverpool do something shit are not outweighed by the overwhelming cunty smugness when they win.

Yes.

Been terrific this season.

Right: Clive Allen - 84 Gary Lineker - 80 Steve Archibald - 77 Steve Perryman - 39 Terry Fenwick - 10 Peter Baker - 3 (in 342 games). Jonathan Woodgate - 3 Joe Kinnear - 2 Paul Robinson - 1 Thimothee Atouba - 1 (Will this do?)

I genuinely liked this one from RAWK: Best thing about the whole incident was the fact that it was a clearly premeditated attempt to get (a) a penalty (b) a red card for retaliation. Suarez's appeal immediately afterwards is so telling. I think it's good that his past record seems to have been taken into account, although I really didn't expect 10 games. Just hope that he is sold, or that we have them at the beginning of next season.

Those pics made me sick in my mouth a little .

Not sure if serious (says the Browns fan).

Was it against us? We got one at your place in October 2011, though I'm sure VDV got one somewhere after that. At home, though, the last one anyone can remember is Bolton in Feb 2011. How many have Man U had at Old Trafford this season alone?

Apparently it's now two years since we were awarded a penalty at home. Now would be a good time. City are just better than us today.

Fuck me. Clicked on the "last read" post for me in this thread and it was on p817...but that was less than a week ago. 123 pages in less than a week? Don't hold back lads, let it all out .

I actually forgot that that was a penalty. I still can't believe that we haven't even had one this season.

Hope Bale doesn't get it so I don't have to listen to the inevitable whining afterwards. I'd probably go Suarez, then Bale for YP on basic play, although I don't think players should be considered for YP if they're up for the other award. I'd prefer the YP award to be for U-21s, and on that basis, Suarez and Lukaku for me.

You used to have to take it on the one side, but that changed a long time ago.

"Penalty to UNITED" says the BBC .

What was hi s pre match guff? "Paolo has had three good working days to work on us, three good training days full pelt with his team, I will have literally none." “The players will have done a bit of warming up and everything else will be on the board. We’ve got to get our message right on that board. “We’ve got better at that. We’ve had to do that from Thursday to Sunday. The more experience teams like Manchester United who do it regularly perhaps find it that little bit easier." “We’ve found that hard to get our message across for the Sunday, what we’ve wanted. But now we’ve managed to put that right to an extent and hopefully we will get it right this Sunday.” “Paolo and myself won’t have much control over the first 45 minutes to some extent. It takes its own course.“We can try and influence it, but the first chance we are really going to get is at half time when we sit everybody down and say ‘hang on a minute, what’s going on here’.“Sometimes it’s really good and sometimes it’s not so good.” Jesus. Even coming from a neutral perspective, that's terrible. He's had, what, two years with many of the players, and since at least Jan with the others. That should be enough time to get a general idea of what you want! Sure, you worry about the oppo a bit, but (a) you've got better players (b) you're at home © you're not really going to know what their plan is going to be because they have a new manager. So you just start like the clappers and try to play your own game. I get that some players may be tired, but haven't you had three home games on the trot?

Naaah. I think this result means curtains for Wigan tbh. Still, it's scary to think about the situation should Cissé not have scored the late goal last week.

It was 5th v 12th, not 17th so people can guess at the money we'll not get this season. Yeah, though Europa money will level that out to a degree, and we could yet finish above 12th (hopefully ) Also, next season's TV deal is epic anyway. The only important thing is staying up really. That's exactly it. Going down would have been a complete nightmare for you because of the January investment, and subsequent wage bill increase. Sunderland have been making big losses for so long that you could argue Short will just have bankrolled them again.

We've been having the same convo at our place. I've got a decent Spurs one from our anniversary match, but the wife has a Villa one too. Then you add in the fact that I wouldn't mind flying a Union flag and an Aussie flag. The house will be like the United Nations.

Hoping for Barca - Dortmund & Real Madrid - Bayern semi finals. Hoping for Barca-Real semi so they foul, moan and cheat each other into oblivion. One enormous punch-up would be ace.