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If anything Carver's appointment has thoroughly vindicated the SackPardew campaign. The argument was put before by Pardew apologists "what if we get someone even worse?" Now we have seen that tactic can only backfire on Ashley so that's one more layer of deception ripped from his defences. Anyone who was waiting for a Carver like appointment before fully believing Ashley was a git, was let's say, not exactly the brightest bulb in the first place. The only way SackPardew would have been vindicated was if the next manager was a success. Otherwise it would have been called AshleyOut from the outset. Like I said, one more layer of deception ripped from Ashley's defences. It seems like we both agree on this yet you seem to find this a problem. Not at all. I'm of the opinion Ashley's true nature was revealed long ago, long before Pardew's reign, and is now well known and understood by both the fans and the media. You'll have a hard time finding anyone who still believes he's trying to do anything with NUFC except make money. There's nothing left to expose. Under Ashley, NUFC is a selling club with zero ambition. If AshleyOut is going to play this like they're revealing some kind of deception to the world, well, they're only going to make themselves look ridiculous. You're missing the point, either deliberately or due to some pretty serious mental deficiencies. The press in this country appear to need to be spoonfed with this stuff if the SP campaign is anything to go by. There's that and there's putting pressure on a notoriously flaky owner who has a strop every time this sort of thing happens. It hasn't happened for too long, and it's never been organised or focussed enough. It's a tall order but this approach will give us the best chance of raising awareness, exposure and pressure. The fans just need to get behind it and be prepared for a long ride that involves a bit of personal sacrifice rather than find fault with it. And then "hope for the best". Only this is a different sort of "hoping for the best", we're still at the will of a billionaire arsehole but this time we're actually trying to do something about it.

Hooray - the voice of reason. Honestly, the utter negativity on this board worries me. Posters wanting us to get relegated? Like the WTF. No deal at all. How is it possible to be this f***ing thick? You want to stay in the PL achieving nothing whatsoever for the next 30 years? We'll lets get relegated then - it will fix all of our problems in a heartbeat. No one's said that and continuing to frame the issue in such a way is ridiculous. If you accept that Ashley's primary, almost sole motivation as NUFC owner is profit maximization (because that should be clear to everyone by this point), it logically follows that he would have less interest in holding on to a club that's failing to earn him money. Relegation would undoubtedly put a major dent in his pocketbook: the disparity in wealth between the PL and Championship is ridiculous. Of course it could backfire and we could "do a Leeds" (which is really not a legitimate reason to be worried about relegation considering the completely different circumstances surrounding Leeds and today's Newcastle). But holding fast where we are, ambition-less and content to simply exist as a PL team and nothing more, is clearly not ever going to force Ashley to reconsider his ownership of the club. Can't speak for others, but I have trouble accepting that tbh. The only thing I feel I know about Ashley is that he will categorically not be putting any more of his own money into the club and has been running it solely on that aim since his first year (not even sure he gives a toss about the piddling profits we now make). Getting relegated won't hurt him much personally or in the pocket, it'll just knock the club back into more cost cutting. :lol: nah he;s not in it for the profits man BottledDog's always been banging the same drum, he's just understandably piped down with it a bit as things have progressed.

Which ones we talking? Mako, Figures 1-0 Football and samptime? Any more? They have certainly all just popped up at once like. Disco has always been very suspect in general so I'm not surprised about that one.

That's absolutely incredible.

Arsenal won a trophy a year ago, play the top teams in Europe every season, play the best football in the league and have some of the most exciting players to watch. Howay man.

It's a risky business goading players that have left, wouldn't be surprised if Santon said he was fit for ages before he was forced out.

The media never seem to highlight mackem misdemeanours in these games like pitch invasions etc. And the second that one of our lot punches a horse they're all over it! Mackedia.

You'd think it would get more traction than SP from media and fans alike, the idea that Ashley is bad for the club is barely even a divisive issue, apart from a few Southern journo WUMs and some fans who think protesting affects the team.

Aye, David Prutton. But I don't remember Jenas the same, £5m was a lot to pay for an 18 year old with less than 30 appearances under his belt in that case.

He's not comfortable unless he's running the show from central midfield tbf.

Aye I agree that there's a bit of value in that but I'm pretty sure he was mainly saying it to sound big and hard and that on the telly tbh. Pundits have a pop at fans for treating these games like wars and not having a sense of perspective, they can't really have it both ways in that respect. It was daft and it shouldn't have happened but I personally wouldn't accuse Krul of not giving a fuck. Think he's definitely become lazier the worse we've got though.

I don't really care about this tbh, it was a bit annoying and misguided but I think he was just congratulating Defoe on a great goal and it obviously looked really bad. It was pretty pathetic the way Carragher was prattling on about it like he was Al Pacino in Scarface. Think Quinn was closer to a sensible POV, keepers are always a bit weird.

Got a canny record at Anfield tbf.

Thanks for letting us know.

This, it's one of my main interests alongside music and cinema but that's all it is really now - an interest. This forum's become the best thing about NUFC. Still enjoy the odd away match just for a chance to get pissed with me mates. Haven't been to SJP for fucking ages though and don't really feel the need.

How fucking long did it take Armstrong to get on the pitch there man FFS? Presumed he was already on and I missed it.

Been absolutely fucking listless this like, even by our standards. We've created nothing.

As ever the time's just ticking by with us creating the square root of fuck-all. mackems so comfortable here.

Need to be careful Catts doesn't start dictating the play here like.

Get rid of that fucking capital S FFS.