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We'll continue going around in circles here, I've explained what I'm getting at. I suppose the main issue at hand is surrounding the potential next appointment and I've been over why I don't think we'd get Dave Bassett in next numerous times. We haven't made a managerial appointment in 2 and a half years and so much else has changed since then, a lot of it for the better. Isn't the main issue that Ashley will simply not sack Pardew so soon after handing him an eight year contract and telling the world of this revolutionary new approach to football club ownership where stability in management brings success on the pitch? Nope not really, not when we're debating whether we'd like to see Pardew sacked or not.

We'll continue going around in circles here, I've explained what I'm getting at. I suppose the main issue at hand is surrounding the potential next appointment and I've been over why I don't think we'd get Dave Bassett in next numerous times. We haven't made a managerial appointment in 2 and a half years and so much else has changed since then, a lot of it for the better.

I guess so, it's done in the interests of creating a debate though. I do the same thing sometimes, without the graphs. I explore various arguments for and against Pardew and how valid they are, it's possible to do that while still thinking that ultimately he's pretty poor. Just makes it more interesting chat IMO. It just seems like an unnecessary diversion from his major argument, that Mike Ashley won't get anyone better, that ultimately seems to be his major concern with sacking Pardew, not that he thinks we would be losing out on his departure directly. If it is genuinely interesting to people though then fair enough, some of his points I've agreed with as I would never claim that Pardew is completely inept, he's just a one trick pony, I really believe that a lot of those points are pretty much common opinion though, and are only being debated because people get set in full on argument mode and end up debating against points that they actually agree with. It doesn't help when there's a dozen people all debating at the same time either, it takes one silly comment from 1 daft cunt to be scrutinised and send the next 4 pages down an alleyway I do agree that it's a strange business that he wants the manager out but makes these arguments that defend Pardew's justifications for us being so poor. I don't think there's a big enough sample size of managerial appointments to say we'd get Dave Bassett in next either. Why is that such a strange business, like? Nothing wrong with providing a bit of balance and realism to the reams of sensationalism, is there? He's saying he's against the manager at heart and has been since day one. We've heard Pardew make excuses all season and HF has been in here justifying those excuses with various stats, some highly tenuous as I say. So yeah, I think it's a strange business (apart from the occasions he has had a point). As much as you must get annoyed in the position you've decided to take I also get annoyed at being called an OMG sensationalist drama queen when all season I've tried to articulate some decent points and criticism.

Not sure I agree they need that much. A striker and a winger should do the job. To go from 5th to winning the league they surely must need quite a bit. Depends on whether you think there'll be a team capable of running away with it next year. I don't see a candidate for that. Aye, that's half the reason I asked. Could be a great opportunity for them if they buy the right players.

I guess so, it's done in the interests of creating a debate though. I do the same thing sometimes, without the graphs. I explore various arguments for and against Pardew and how valid they are, it's possible to do that while still thinking that ultimately he's pretty poor. Just makes it more interesting chat IMO. It just seems like an unnecessary diversion from his major argument, that Mike Ashley won't get anyone better, that ultimately seems to be his major concern with sacking Pardew, not that he thinks we would be losing out on his departure directly. If it is genuinely interesting to people though then fair enough, some of his points I've agreed with as I would never claim that Pardew is completely inept, he's just a one trick pony, I really believe that a lot of those points are pretty much common opinion though, and are only being debated because people get set in full on argument mode and end up debating against points that they actually agree with. It doesn't help when there's a dozen people all debating at the same time either, it takes one silly comment from 1 daft cunt to be scrutinised and send the next 4 pages down an alleyway I do agree that it's a strange business that he wants the manager out but makes these arguments that defend Pardew's justifications for us being so poor. I don't think there's a big enough sample size of managerial appointments to say we'd get Dave Bassett in next either.

Seeks to work with a lot of fans though, his general patter. Fan feelings are difficult to summarise or quantify given that everyone has a slightly different view. I hate his press comments and so do most of the people I know, but a lot of people seem to lap it up.

I don't think it's trolling either, a few points have been extremely tenuous though.

I reckon they are only 2 or 3 players away. One would be an absolute top quality striker though. Me too, I don't think they're that far off but the players they need would be expensive.

Agree with you on this one, there are a few similar examples of weird selections and substitutions, obviously. Anita was also unfortunate, albeit to a lesser degree. One of our best players in that horrible winter run then never got a look in.

I still don't understand why Marveaux was on the pitch for so few minutes over the course of the season despite nearly always being available for selection and setting up and scoring goals a lot of the time he featured. Well I do understand it but I can't accept it.

Tottenham is a bit of a dive tbf, compared to the neighbouring areas.

How many players would Spurs have to add to challenge for the title?

He was often up against some right moneybags clubs too, although he was fortunate to have such a fantastic bunch from the youth team.

On the other hand that blows Pardew's biggest excuse out of the water, tiredness, Europe, extra games, blah blah. You can't have it both ways. I don't think you have to have played every game in a season to get tired. Benitez was complaining about tiredness at Chelsea before christmas. Sissoko played something like 10 games in 30 days after he signed. 1 game every 3 days for a bloke that's never played the game at the pace we do in England. It was inevitable his form would wane. His form nosedived after 2 or 3 games.

Had a lot of money the whole time. Only spent about £200m net in all that time, not bad if you ask me.

I'm gutted he beat me like.

Cisse vs Soton for me too, closely followed by Ben Arfa vs Villa and Ba vs Reading.

Feels like 100.

Bullshit bingo. Haha,. Who are they going to appoint? You're dreaming man. They are happy to exist in the cash cow premier league. Pardew is their man - and like I said he'll stay. Pardew is their best appointment by a mile - go figure. Why you going on about Curbishley for then? Because people like you don't know what you're wishing for. Pardew out - but not a fucking peep in the ground today - not a word from fans such as yourself, no chant, nothing. They won't appoint a good manager. They'll appoint a current employee or whatever is cheapest. How do you know that? Lots has changed in terms of the players we bring in, why will we still bring in a shit manager? And thanks for the dig, I wasn't at the game today.

Bullshit bingo. Haha,. Who are they going to appoint? You're dreaming man. They are happy to exist in the cash cow premier league. Pardew is their man - and like I said he'll stay. Pardew is their best appointment by a mile - go figure. Why you going on about Curbishley for then?

Bullshit bingo.

Couple more points or whatever and it's all you could have asked.

If we are missing more than about three 'key' players Pardew says he can't win matches, so it's no surprise that we don't rotate much. Self-fulfilling prophecy. There aren't many players to 'rotate' to be fair. In comparison to the clubs who've been around us this season? Of course there are. Why strikers are you going to rotate? Cisse Shola Gouffran Rotate away. Our squad is pathetic - though January improved that - too little too late. Pathetic lack of ambition and backing from the board. We're light in terms of options for the front 3, other than that we're spoilt. I work with a Norwich fan, that is a s**** squad. Our squad wasn't fit for purpose at the start of the season - they only invested in january because they were shitting themselves. Cisse Shola Our forward options. Embarrassing. Pardew's been s**** but Ashley hasn't half pulled the wool on some people. Still focusing on that one position then, I see. What league position do you think is about par for that squad? What use is the squad on the treatment table though? Are you denying injuries have caused us serious bother this year? Do you think the board invested enough in summer - would they have invested if we weren't in trouble? Averting the question. Of course we've had injuries but I'll say the same thing I've been saying all year, our form cannot be allowed to grind to a halt when we have 2 or 3 players out. On many, many occasions this season I've looked at the 2 teamsheets and thought we should beat these, then we lose. I'd probably say - given the fixture list - and europe - par for the course would've been 12th. Not far off. Well suffice to say, I disagree.

Cisse has been poor this season and Ba is a Chelsea player. GO TEAM Just the striker situation at fault for our worst Premier league finish ever (other than getting relegated), righteo.

If we are missing more than about three 'key' players Pardew says he can't win matches, so it's no surprise that we don't rotate much. Self-fulfilling prophecy. There aren't many players to 'rotate' to be fair. In comparison to the clubs who've been around us this season? Of course there are. Why strikers are you going to rotate? Cisse Shola Gouffran Rotate away. Our squad is pathetic - though January improved that - too little too late. Pathetic lack of ambition and backing from the board. We're light in terms of options for the front 3, other than that we're spoilt. I work with a Norwich fan, that is a s**** squad. Our squad wasn't fit for purpose at the start of the season - they only invested in january because they were shitting themselves. Cisse Shola Our forward options. Embarrassing. Pardew's been s**** but Ashley hasn't half pulled the wool on some people. Still focusing on that one position then, I see. What league position do you think is about par for that squad? What use is the squad on the treatment table though? Are you denying injuries have caused us serious bother this year? Do you think the board invested enough in summer - would they have invested if we weren't in trouble? Averting the question. Of course we've had injuries but I'll say the same thing I've been saying all year, our form cannot be allowed to grind to a halt when we have 2 or 3 players out. On many, many occasions this season I've looked at the 2 teamsheets and thought we should beat these, then we lose.