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we've deserved to lose

so barton taylor and guthrie all taken off ahead of butt, awfull decision

geremi and butt on the pitch, give up all hope of a point.

sounds like a sloppy goal.

they just complimented butt on bbc newcastle....

reminds me of that stupid bell at portsmouth

Come on he's not the only source of the problem...Nolan has been anonymous as has Barton.... anonymous is one step better than butt constantly losing it imo.

nicky butt starts 2nd half

lets face it, one team, at some point was eventually going to get a goal against us when we play so defensively. bring on the second half

shit omerod

gerrin thank god for that.

harper again.

bloody hell, this is like listening to a league match last season.

may as well play with ten when were replacing him with butt

yup. imagine carrol for ranger may be because ranger has played an awful lot so may wanna rest him. would prefer to see two upfront

bad thing imo, theirs already a premium price on anyone who is young decent and english and this is only going to increase this, clubs outside the top 5 will now be even more disadvantaged, its bad enough searching for talent before the big spenders get to it first, across the world.

not bad odds.

For our best passer, Barton hardly found a team-mate all bloody match. A few went astray, but he's still our best passer. Sometimes the execution was poor, but sometimes I felt the receiver failed to anticipate. They were flat-footed instead of running into space. and their wasnt much exactly to aim at. also i do feel his reputation precedes him, alan smith did a hell of a lot worse than him before getting booked than barton did. All our players were wasteful in possession, but I've rarely seen a player's misdirect/misweight so many passes as Barton managed today. would of been ten times worse if butt/ Geremi had started, but it did remind me of how bad last season was, no where near good enough, but it was still an improvement

For our best passer, Barton hardly found a team-mate all bloody match. A few went astray, but he's still our best passer. Sometimes the execution was poor, but sometimes I felt the receiver failed to anticipate. They were flat-footed instead of running into space. and their wasnt much exactly to aim at. also i do feel his reputation precedes him, alan smith did a hell of a lot worse than him before getting booked than barton did.

agreed, if im honest. showed nothing going forward and always felt worried when cardiff attacked, felt nolan was especially poor. but the teams that go up will be the teams that can get 3 points despite poor performances, so wont complain.

kerching

Totally agree. There's this notion of people thinking that Keegan walked out because "Xisco was rubbish" imo it was probably a bit of both, when you're banging on MA's door demanding an Lb to see him spend money on areas that dont need improving (as much) and on players you've never herd of, would get to you. he probably could of lived with not getting the players he wanted or wise being allowed to sign players, but not both.

the picture of him holding a coke bottle is just awful