TheGuv

Good use of the safety wink

Yep. They’re fucked

It worked for some and didn’t work for others. The ballot in theory works of course. But a forever uncapped membership (57,000 in 24 hours and growing to god knows what) with no tangible benefit other than a chance of entering the ballot (despite what Silverstone says. 15% off at Shearer’s doesn’t hack it) - and with no thought process into any form of loyalty to many with long ticketing history, feels like a massive kick in the dick to many. The way Silverstone talks we could clearly end up in a position with hundred(s) of thousands of members ‘so they know who is in the stadium’ and ‘who our real fans are’. It’s clearly about money (which is fine) and it’s clearly about expanding the fan base (which is also fine). But it still hurts many who have also put a hell of a lot into the club financially and emotionally in the last 2 years and seemingly have been given no reward - or any notification of a potential reward in future (whatever that may be? That there has been no mention of this, also feels like we’re all on tbe same benefit level moving forward. Which we clearly are). I understand your frustrations with the old system @Optimistic Nut. That’s totally valid. Some of us clearly benefitted from the old system. But certainly from my perspective, 4 close friends all linking our memberships together and logging in every week without fail in the hope we got a good queue number - certainly showed our mad shit devotion to it. I wonder how many of the 57,000+ REALLY care? If they did, they’d have bought a membership on Day 1 last year - but they didn’t.

3, 6 and 11 man. Howay…

You just know the game is going to be delayed as well due to people not getting into the ground on time or the digital tickets not working.

Yes. Exactly what you said in your first two sentences. What difference does 24 hours make? FYI there is already a ticket resale 3 days after this current ballot. Plenty of time for people to go in and select a seat.

And if you’re not arsed, and don’t select a seat you’ll be randomly generated one anyway. Shirley?

The cynic in me thinks it was pre planned. Nobody is complaining about the price rises now (I still think £35-£44 for a normal seat is sneaky - 25% increase - when ST holders have only been hit with a 5% increase). The club are now getting a big pat on the back for allowing you to select the category you want, which was a no brainer thing to do in the first place…

They literally did the same with a ballot for Wembley. You were successful in the ballot and then selected your ticket. It’s definitely doable man I just hope the NUST push this. I surely can’t be the only person that would like the opportunity to select a seat if I’m successful?

But everyone is being given a shot. That’s happened. Doesn’t mean people shouldn’t rightly want to select their seat should they be successful. If I really wanted to see Oppenheimer at the cinema, and was successful in a ballot and was charged to sit on the front row and had no choice - I’d be fuming. I’d rather not go and pay for that thank you. I don’t see how this is any different.

But it was the same for Wembley tickets. People were successful in a ballot and then chose their seats. If you’re successful - great. But If you’re too slow selecting the exact seat you want. Tough. And if you’re not arsed - then it doesn’t matter either way - as you’re in the same position as now ?‍♂️

I’d still like to select where I sit however…

Can anyone remember the difference between Cat 1, 2 and 3?

I’d still like an option to select a seat if successful… It can’t be that hard surely?

Bear in mind there is International membership ??

Begin from this season then. If you want to keep it fair ?‍♂️ And bring the tier in next season.

In my theory - I’d prefer it to be based on previous attendance. I was merely suggesting cost for a way of the club to make more money.

Liverpool at home in 2019 was it?

I’ll say it til I’m blue in the face and said it weeks ago. If you’re having unlimited memberships there has to be a tier element to it. Example: Tier 1 - 10 membership home games and above (higher weighted ballot entry yet can still be unsuccessful on application) Tier 2 - 3 home membership games and above (higher weighted ballot entry, as above). Tier 3 - basic membership. (All can enter ballot and many will still get tickets). Just as away ticket holders are now annoyed with the new away system, there should be something in place for more ‘loyal’ (dare I say it) home fans. Some of have spent well over £1000 in the last 2 seasons on membership and tickets for home games. Yet, someone who fancies buying a membership in March, with a chance to watch Newcastle’s title run in (for example) with no ticketing history and can enter a ballot and has the same % chance to a home ticket as someone who has been to various games over various seasons? That is also not fair. Yet everyone should be in the same boat? It’s a missed trick imo. Indeed if the club wanted to raise more money, I’m sure people would have paid even more money to jump into a different tier. If you have unlimited membership, you have to differentiate within the membership too. I’m not sure how that’s a crazy suggestion.

No, unless they were buying them on the first day of sale. If you want to encourage a broader base of fan, then perhaps letting them pick their own price of seat would be a good start.

For one, you’ll see away fans buying memberships for tickets to get into home end. I can guarantee you that. Liverpool or Arsenal being number 1 culprits. If you’re having unlimited memberships there has to be a way to differentiate between a fan as well. You don’t want to stop any fan going, but you also can’t lump every non season ticket holding fan into the same category either. I find it interesting the club capped it last year and not this year btw. Do you think they suddenly had a change of heart or do you think they wanted to capitalise on £££. I know why I think they have done it.

I personally think unlimited memberships is a nightmare. But if you’re going to have unlimited memberships then there has to be a benefit to holding one and a benefit to showing loyalty in the past and moving forward too. One option would have been, tiered levels of memberships. This could have been an option a La Spurs. Perhaps the possibility of building up home ‘loyalty’ points for every game attended to go to the next tiered level.

The more I think about this the more angry I get. It goes right back to the announcement of unlimited memberships for me. As soon as that was announced, I knew they were just trying to cash in on a fervent fan base. Have you ever been a member of any club or institution that literally anyone can sign up to at any time? No you haven’t. Members generally get a benefit of some description. Not here they don’t. There’s no benefit to a membership at all. Other than a free for all of tens of thousands of mugs trying to pile in. (That’s before the likes of away fans cotton onto the fact they could get a ticket in tbe home end for a big game). It was also a kick in the dick to the loyal members of the last few seasons who’d already spent hundreds of pounds - the lack of loyalty shown to those fans was the first alarm bell for me. This reeks of Silverstone, and the fact no lame apology or excuse has come out yet, shows you exactly what this was - a cash grab. NUFC, if you’re reading this. Sort this out now.

How much is One Hotspur+? Certainly better than our membership benefits. This is literally the sort of thing the Club should have been pushing… Tiers of membership.

Just found this too. A blended average of 3.3% https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/newcastle-united-confirms-202324-season-ticket-information-and-prices/?displayMode=GoogleAmp