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Aye was a good mix in there. Loads of excitable young 'uns, some old School radgies, and then some ordinary fans as well. Worked a treat!

Just go back to the the old way. Our away end was full of young radgies before the ID checks. If it puts those out who've totally ruined our away ends then tough shit really.

The Level 7 corner in that Championship season was absolutely class mind

They're massive hypocrites mind. Cried like bitches for years because those nasty away fans were chucking coins at them from above, resulting in away fans being banned from taking coins in with them yet their number one method of attack is to throw coins at the away fans So annoyed that those cowards representing us on Sunday couldn't put them in their place. And I'm talking on and off the pitch here.

No the problem is that they haven't been replaced by likeminded people in this day and age.

Aye in a lot of cases the trip down there was decided in the pub on the night before then it was a case of how many could squeeze into the Transit minibus amongst plenty of other off the cuff ways of getting there. No ID checks, no 15% of the allocation skimmed off for corporates or club staff. No obstacles put in the way of groups of lads, generally in the 16-40 age bracket, just going around the Country following their team.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2673163003045553/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v Just popped up on my Facebook there before. Never seen this video. Compare that to Sunday. Listen to how our crowd roar the team on, compared to how it is now.

I've got some news for you here but a lot of people who go to the match aren't what you'd call "supporters" in the dictionary definition of the word. If you're there tonight you take a good look around you and see how many people are actively "supporting". By this I mean vocally supporting the players whether that be in song, or roaring them on, applauding good play or a good tackle. You'd be surprised but the % is actually quite low. There's plenty there in the, sit in silence with arms folded for the entirity category, and those who are far quicker to moan and grumble over bad play or a mistake than they are muster any sort of enthusiasm for positive stuff. I can't stand Graeme Souness but probably the only thing he got right in his time here was when he commented that there are 30k supporters who attend and the rest are customers. I'd say that 30k figure is a lot less than it was 20 years ago as well.

Best fans of all the Midlands clubs in my experience.

When have we played on the front foot this season? Majority of away games we've definitely been more on the back foot and without possession. Agree he's not what we need but disagree we've played on the front foot this season. We definitely didn't on Sunday when he was once again worse than shite.

Did it at Fulham at home as well. Wilson started, game was drifting to a 0-0 draw, Isak off the bench to play alongside him for the last 20, he scores, we win 1-0.

There's no perfect system but it was still the best. What it meant was that the most loyal, the hardcore, were able to access tickets one way or another and in turn it made for raucous away ends and better support for the team on the road.

Haha always good to see black and white teams doing well and was chuffed to bits for them yesterday. Bet you wish you'd been there now instead of suffering that shite. Watched the highlights and it looked like pandemonium in the St Mirren end! I enjoy going to watch Scottish football. I think the fans are better than they are down here. Going to Gala Fairydean v Berwick on 27th December and Dundee Utd v Dundee on 3rd January.

Yeah mate we're featured in a book called Mijn PSV DNA and back in 2006 the local newspaper the Eindhovens Dagblad did a big story on us which involved 1 of their reporters flying over here and then flying back to The Netherlands with us and Chronicling our journey for one of the matches which got a huge reaction over there and resulted in us being recognised in all the pubs for a good while afterwards. Even had people asking for photos which was a bit embarrassing In return for the story they insisted that they paid for us to go to the Dutch Cup Final that season and booked us flights and put us up in a lovely hotel in Rotterdam for a couple of nights. One of the former players Berry Van Aerle, who was part of the 1988 European Cup winning team (35 Holland caps as well), generously gifted us 2 tickets for the match from his allocation. Another occasion we were at Newcastle Airport ready to get on a plane to watch PSV v Ajax when I got a text off a friend over there saying the Mayor of Eindhoven had demanded the game was to be postponed because of a threat of crowd trouble so we just headed back home. Next time we went we were sat having a pint in one of the pubs when a lad comes over with an envelope with €600 in it for us as some of them had a whip round and collected it up because they were annoyed we were out of pocket after that. It hadn't cost us anywhere near that so we wanted to put a big chunk of it behind the bar but they were having none of it! Probably my favourite moment though was when the Chairman of the Supporters Club got in touch with me to give me a cheque for €1000 that they wanted me to hand over to Sir Bobby Robson for his Foundation and I had the honour of meeting him in the Copthorne to present it to him and his lovely wife. That story made The Chronicle over here!

Haha very interesting mate! Loyalty points drops down enough for me to apply for a ticket in the away end from tomorrow morning and there's just over 1k left from their 2,500 allocation so I'm going to try to get one in the away end but will also enter the ballot which coincidentally also opens tomorrow then if I get both ends make a decision on where to go. I know which bit will have the best atmosphere mind!

Players should be pelted with rotten fruit as they emerge from the tunnel.

For me the atmosphere is everything. When I look back at my first ever game as a 6 year old back in 1984 it wasn't anything on the pitch that got me hooked, it was the crowd. The noise, the passion, the hostility towards the away team and their fans. Loved watching how irate or excited blokes would get depending on what was happening on the pitch. It just felt like it meant everything to everyone for those 90 minutes and it was a feeling that's hard to describe. Nowadays it couldn't be much different. Said it the other week but it depresses me. The lifeless crowd, people just there through habit and looking like they'd rather be anywhere else. It's rubbish these days. It bores me. Didn't apply for Burnley, didn't apply for Fulham, did apply for Chelsea but unsuccessful and not bothered so haven't attempted to get one by other means.

Another thing is that this season they've asked us supporters to pay through the nose for tickets. £58-£97 for standard tickets for the majority of games so far this season. ST holders paying well over £750 to sit behind the goals, nearly a grand in the East Stand and Milburn Paddocks. Well over a grand for a seat behind the Paddocks. When you're asking people to stump up ridiculous money for tickets you can't just go writing off seasons. You need to be able to justify why you are charging people these crazy prices to watch your product. Football stopped being merely a sport a long time ago, and became very much a business. The money men did that. Their "customers" won't blindly fork out silly money week in week out to watch drivel. There's more pressure than ever to deliver on the pitch. That's on the club. If this time next month we're still in the bottom half and out of both Cups the club need to be proactive. In this day and age there isn't the time just to keep kicking the can down the road.

I'm saying it shouldn't be used as an argument to whether he's sacked or not. Seen lot's of people saying because he won us the League Cup and got CL qualification x2 that he should get more time. I understand that but at the same time we shouldn't let things drag on longer than we should have if there's no signs of improvement.

The "credit in the bank" argument is a strange one. He should forever have that because of what he's achieved here, delivering us our first domestic trophy in 70 years, and our first ever League Cup. However, just say for argument sake we lose our next 7 games, which would mean exiting both cups, I'd be in the camp where I think it's time for him to leave, but he'd still have plenty of credit in the bank. We've spoken about holding onto players too long and not moving them on at the optimum time but the same can go for managers. I'd hate for things to carry on as they are and for the crowd to start turning on him, and it will happen if things continue as they are. I'd much rather the club grasped the nettle and acted before it got to that stage. At the moment he looks all out of ideas and appears to have basically wasted the majority of our summer transfer budget. He can turn it around but this is certainly his most testing time as a manager since he was relegated with Bournemouth. There's no room for sentiment in football. If results and performances don't improve in the next 4-6 weeks, out of the cups and Europe looking unlikely, it would probably be right that we look at other options. He'd still leave as a club legend though.

Think they're on about just breaking him down for parts.

The ship has probably sailed now but if he's still highly rated at Forest maybe he could be used as a make weight in a deal to get Anderson back and then we can do what we probably should have done in the first place and go all out for Semenyo.

Most clubs do a rolling 3 year loyalty points system. Chelsea go even further and their reset every year. Don't think that's as fair mind.

Under 25s should get a separate allocation set aside for them for away games, maybe 10% so that would be 300 tickets for most aways, and of course any under 25 with enough loyalty points should be able to apply from the standard allocation. I think Man City do something similar to that. Also any new season tickets available should be offered to this group of fans first. Us oldies have had our chance

This is exactly what happened. You've got loads of middle aged season ticket holders who had years to build up away points but couldn't be arsed pre October 2021 cried because they suddenly decided they wanted to watch the team on the road and the club bent over backwards to accommodate them only for them to replicate their behaviour at SJP around the Country. Meanwhile the daft lads who packed away ends around the Country and made a canny old racket for years previous now can't go.