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How many fans access SJP by car? The only car park there isn't even open on a match day to the general public! As for the walk, admittedly I'm a fairly quick walker and it takes me 10 mins to walk from my pre match pub (Five Swans) to SJP. I reckon I could get to the Town Moor in 20. Aside from all that if people want a bigger more modern stadium that allows 20k more fans access to home games there will be one or two compromises that'll need to be made. You can't have it all!

Accessibility wouldn't be an issue I'd have thought. Certainly better roads around there than there are at St James'. Don't think people would really change their match day habits if we moved to there other than having to leave the pub maybe 10 minutes earlier so the vast majority would still be attending from the city centre meaning the students of Jesmond wouldn't be inconvenienced too much. Even the likes of myself and everyone else from the East side of Jesmond still wouldn't be going anywhere near there on a match day.

There's still plenty of land there to build a 70k stadium, especially if we were able to encroach over the current land that SJP stand on like what Spurs did. If anything accessibility would be improved as you'd have Barrack Road pn one side and Richardson Road on the other. Obviously a quick look at Google Earth tells you where the easiest site to build on would be!

Surely building on a park which only involves demolishing a bandstand which is dropping to bits anyway and the removal of some trees (and replanting new ones at the current SJP site if a land swap was proposed) would be far easier than shifting Leazes Terrace?

Chelsea prices 25/26

People can go on about the pre match music etc but changing that is just akin to rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. It's probably going to upset a lot of people but if we really want to address the elephant in the room the fact is that it's the people inside the ground who are the problem. We must have, without a doubt, the oldest most miserable home crowd in the Country and old people generally aren't the sort to create a rousing atmosphere. I often look around at those who are sat in my vicinity and even at 47 I feel like I'm on the younger side of the spectrum. I was at work on Tuesday night so watched on my phone. Honestly when the camera picks up fans in the East Stand it looks like they're pretty much on their last legs. No life in there whatsoever. Just sit there like statues. Watched Leeds v Chelsea last night and it's the polar opposite. Fans opposite the camera up out their seats getting behind their team, giving the opposition loads of stick. Basically doing their jobs and making it an uncomfortable atmosphere for the away players. They done their jobs. Leeds don't win that game last night away from Elland Road. Even at places like Arsenal the fans appear for more animated and involved in the game than ours are. Our younger, more enthusiastic fans, and there's still a few there who aren't locked out or priced out are dotted around the place and their impact is minimal. Ticket prices I feel this season are the final nail in the coffin. £58-£97 for members prices on Tuesday. With all due respect you've basically priced the local radgies out in one fell swoop there and you've instantly decided to target a different market, and it's it's not the market who'll be up out their seats urging the team on. At this stage I don't even think safe standing makes much of a difference. It's the same people after all. People go on about a new stadium will be "soulless" but I'll tell you something, SJP is a soulless as anything else out there these days. Absolutely flat as a fart. The corner try but their impact isn't massive because they are fairly small in number, Gallowgate Upper try but because of the design of the roof they can't be heard anywhere but in the Gallowgate and there's still a few up by the away fans but they are too far away to affect the atmosphere down on the pitch for the players to feed off. What I will say is that we lost a lot of our "hardcore" when Rafa walked away. There was definitely something building there in blocks U and V in the Gallowgate (that 2-3 Liverpool game up there was off the scale!) but they walked away en masse when Rafa went and Bruce came in. When you factor in all the above you have the perfect storm for a flat, miserable atmosphere and in the main that's been the case all season with a couple of exceptions. Even the CL games have been flat. Tbh it's put me off going. Didn't even apply in the Burnley ballot. I'll watch it on the Firestick. Save myself 50 odd quid, watch it with a few cans and in the warm. It's not like I'll be missing out on a rousing atmosphere which is the only benefit of being there as opposed to watching on the telly, other than tbe pre and post match drinks but I'll save my money on them for Leverkusen next week! Been going regularly since the mid 80s. When I look back at shite atmosphere seasons there's the 90/91 season when there was barely anyone there to make a noise, the Bruce era and this season. I do think we're past the point of no return now sadly. Mentioned it earlier but ticket prices this season are the final nail in the atmosphere coffin. We're now charging the same as Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal and there's literally not been a single complaint. In places like Germany for example there'd have been hell on if they'd increased to ticket prices by so much in such a short space of time. We just accept it sadly.

I've got £25 on them to win tonight at 7/1. I had the same amount on them to beat Chelsea away (also 7/1) back in October so at least I'm profiting from this run they're on!

You could say that about most teams tbf. We're a very poor benchmark on that score. They're actually a very good, very well drilled side.

We could easily sell 55k season tickets. Probably a lot more if that was the route the club wanted to go down meaning we could easily fill a 70k stadium every week. If the club capped season tickets at, say 35,000 and then continued charging obscene amounts for the other seats then it wouldn't be full. It's all to do with the pricing. We sold out an early round League Cup match v Wimbledon at 1 weeks notice last season because it was priced fairly. With stanard tickets for yesterday being priced at between £58-£97 you're vastly restricting which fans can afford to attend and therefore have a much smaller pool of available punters.

There was plenty available for last night.

Wasn't there last night but the reaction to the atmosphere (or lack of it) on Social Media is probably the most negative I've seen all season. Just seen @Disco post above as well which ties in with what I've been reading on Twitter and Facebook. A couple of hundred empty seats there as well. Resales that they couldn't move on.

I think we all know this lad isn't going to be good enough to be our permanent number 1 (I said that on here before tonight) and he was average at best today but Pope was costing us goals left, right and centre and needed taking out of the team so we're stuck with Ramsdale until he has a bad run of form and Pope comes back in. He'll be sent back to his parent club in the summer and hopefully we'll sign a much better goalkeeper.

Still around 150 tickets left on resale. £58 in the Leazes and Gallowgate, £75 in the East Stand and £75/£97 in the Milburn. Those prices are a piss take for a midweek televised match 3 weeks before Xmas with another home game to follow in 4 days time. I'm on nightshift tonight so can't go anyway but even if I hadn't been I think I would have swerved this one like.

Their home support is woeful but i suppose you can say that about just about every English team these days. A few Fulham fans took to Social media last week to say the mackem support there was the quietest away support they'd had so far this season.

In that case there would have had to be loads of empty seats up towards the back for them to move into unless they were sitting on someones knee. You couldn't do that at SJP because there would be no spare seats under cover. There was loads of empty seats opposite the camera and in the North Stand where all the fans remain seated during the match, suppose they could double up in the South Stand where the fans stand towards the back. Looked more like a lot of their jonny come lately fans took one look at the weather and thought, nah fuck that.

Couldn't believe how empty it looked. Would be surprised if there was even 40k there (no doubt they'd pretend there was anyway ). Didn't think the Premier League novelty would wear off as quickly, especially when they're doing well.

I was born in 78 and I'd say he is. Just appear to have the full package.

More goals on Merseyside than Isak this season and he's a centre half. Fair play.

We haven't played a single game in the 4th one yet though and we've only played 2 LC games and we were able to rotate v Bradford. I was comparing their mentality compared to ours anyway but I think that has gone straight over your head.

If that's the road you're going down look at Burns contribution to our last league defeat

Don't see how that's got much to do with it. Wolves have only got 1 competition and they are bottom.

Didn't do much wrong tbf

The last 3 years is largely irrelevant though when you're talking about the here and now. Schar had came back in and done very well in the last few weeks and doesn't deserve to be dropped.

If Burn is available he has to play. That's the rules.

Don't know when they are beaten. Wish our lot had half the balls they've got. When we go even a goal down it's pretty much game over.