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Well done Wolves.

Technically, how many people does it take for it to make a "crowd"? 3. Or in Wigan's case, 2. Not all have to be human. That's technically the smallest crowd possible. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_D0vza8xD55E/SYo7d9k2geI/AAAAAAAAD4g/Zuper4XNcBc/s320/fotc08_dave.jpg

Who is Landon Donovan?

Wish we could just change the thread title to

Reminds me of this gem on Detroit, essentially my hometown.

Lets hope so.

Happened to me in FM, ended up getting 30-odd caps.

You don't need to earn a reputation to be good, you just have to be good. Which Hart is.

Man City being beaten by their own tactics is great to watch.

You're ignoring so much if you think Spurs was his only good game this season. And he made a mistake that let in a goal, every goalie has one. Tim Howard has had two awful one's season. Reina and van Der Sar have had two of the worst I've ever seen. How can you watch this game on right now and say he doesn't look too confident with corners and set pieces and corners when I can think of three times this half alone where he's made great plays coming out for balls? You obviously have not watched him enough, he continually makes spectacular saves, and he's done so for a while. Haha, you give me shit for judging him on one match then you say that he's great with corners/crosses/set-pieces because he's done well in this match. He has potential but still has a lot to prove. The way he's played in this game is no different than any other ones.

Checkmate All right, finishing in the top 5 for three consecutive seasons makes us shite. Given's proven, that's the point. He's done it at all levels. Hart's done nothing to deserve all this praise. Given's done enough to earn his reputation and has done nothing to deserve being called 'done'. Yes he has - arguably the best goalkeeper in the Premiership and looks like being a clear England No.1 for many years to come. Why shouldn't he be praised? One decent season with Birmingham makes him arguably the best gk in the Premiership? Clear England No.1 having only played 7 games for the team? Come on, man. He's as hyped up as Foster and Carson were before they crumbled. Similar profile as well: decent season for a mid-table team, lots of praise, starts for England... Hart's better than both of them, but he hasn't done enough to earn this 'best in the Premiership' title that you've so easily given to him. Stop it, just stop. Decent season? You are a joke, he was fantastic. He doesn't have a large sample size to go by, but in those two years he's been the best keeper in the league, easily the best English keeper. If someone continues to play as well as he has he deserves to be praised. You're so blind.

You're ignoring so much if you think Spurs was his only good game this season. And he made a mistake that let in a goal, every goalie has one. Tim Howard has had two awful one's season. Reina and van Der Sar have had two of the worst I've ever seen. How can you watch this game on right now and say he doesn't look too confident with corners and set pieces and corners when I can think of three times this half alone where he's made great plays coming out for balls? You obviously have not watched him enough, he continually makes spectacular saves, and he's done so for a while.

Checkmate

He's had much more than just a few good games this season, on top of that he's had few outstanding international appearances. You're severely underrating his season with Birmingham if you are only calling it decent, it was much better than that. As an impartial American, I think you can trust me not to overrate an English player, in fact, I would say you don't rate him as well because he is English.

Given's better. Irrelevant to my point, but I don't agree anyway. People are quick to ignore Hart because of his age, but I haven't seen a better keeper over the past few seasons, even when I only saw him play in U21 games.

Seems you've put a lot into this. I'd like to hear some more of your thoughts on the subject.

Unless Joe Hart completely implodes, England have a very good keeper for the next decade and further.

Great save

Man City have been asking for a game like this all season.

Definitely going to be another red in this one.

Who was the player who scored a pen, then kept running and punched the keeper in the face? Be a good way to get his hat trick. That is fantastic.

Nasri is really good.

Well played

Yeah, better for us. Just love seeing Liverpool falter.