NUFCDoog

Said it before and I'll say it again, the majority of games are shit these days, been getting worse last few years and will only continue. It's too tactical. Sure you get the odd decent game, Spurs/Bournemouth was alright, as it finished 2 2 it makes it seem better, but it's not like there was a flurry of chances, just the odd good bits of play. The more the players have become highly tuned athletes it's made the games worse too, the better they are technically it just cancels stuff out.

Dreadful this

Think they might have a game on Tuesday too, not 100% but think its against PSG

Liverpool aren't that great but they keep finding a way to win. Even last night, it's alright saying well they were battered, should have been 4 nil etc etc, it wasn't and they won. Again. So many times this season they've not looked that great and have ended up winning. Even at our very best, full strength, chances are they'd still find a way to win, but now, with our injuries and another morale boosting win for them last night, it's nigh on impossible.

Salah 1 nil upcoming

I won't feel content till we get past the West Ham game, if everyone comes through that ok then I'll feel better that he will play. Firmly in the rest players for the West Ham camp.

Have you not followed us since Howe came in? There's so many examples of where he says stuff like the above, only for it to turn out they're properly injured and out for weeks/months. Happened similar with Isak last season. Would be totally inkeeping with the last couple seasons, and the signs have been there the last few weeks.

Wouldn't be surprised, regardless of if he is going to be out, he clearly isn't fully fit so there's an issue there.

I agree, but i don't think we do have a fit Isak.

Nah that's not that bad. Just the normal emotion any of us would feel after a late draw against our rivals. He's said that in the heat of the moment, completely understand it. These managers aren't robots, loads of us would react like that with stakes so high. Rightly sent off obv, but it's nothing really.

All comes down to how fit Isak is to how much of a chance we have now, even moreso with Hall, Botman and Gordon out. Even if he was fully fit (he isnt) our chances wouldn't be good, but the fact he keeps having all these niggly injuries and can't seem to play a full 90 minutes, means he's deffo going into this game not at full power. It's bloody typical, wish therr wasn't such a gap between Semis and final, we looked in good shape after that second leg.

Literally the only good thing to happen today

If Man Utd end up winning this trophy again despite being shit all season...can see it happening as well

About the same chance now I'd say

Its not just Gordon being out, it's we've such a paper thin squad that any player going out reduces our chances massively. Its Liverpool, we need to be our absolute best and will need the bench. Gordon being out now means it's Barnes or bust. Couple that with us clearly being out of form, Liverpool already sewn up the league and always finding a way to win, we've got little to no chance.

Barnes - Isak - Murphy isn't the worst front 3 mind for the final, but still you'd much rather have all players fit. If Isak is injured then we may as well not bother, leads me to think he is that he goes off now with ET pending.

100% red card, stupid thing to do. Out of the final. Why do we bother

Off topic but come on man, edit that last part out. I know its already been on but thats a Bit of a massive spoiler to drop in a random football thread for some, like me, who were planning on watching that later today at a sensible hour.

I might sound crazy, as this is only the 5th Round and we're in the final of the Carabao, but I genuinely think we have a better chance of winning this cup than the Carabao! Which makes this a huge game, beat these, anyone at home or even Preston away in the next round and I'll be confident of two more Wembley trips!

Ipswich are so shit. Worse promoted teams ever this season, can't ever think of a time all three of them were so bad. Conceding 3 goals to Man Utd

We'll see. Either way if his groin is so had he's not even in the squad, he isn't going to be 100% in just over 2 weeks.

That's him out of the final, 100%, we know how long his groin injuries last. Gutting.

Aye, one of those offsides checked in 5 seconds because it's Anfield and Liverpool but he still looks on to this day to me. Would have put us two nil up and we'd have won that. Wankers.

Great game that, buzzed with them last 10 minutes, Speed got the equaliser if I remember rightly

Great results for us last night in the main - at worst we'll only be 3 points off 4th after tonight's fixtures. 2pts off 5th. Get a result here and we're in a great position, but we still are with a defeat. Hopefully means we csn play with a bit of freedom. We know what will happen mind, it'll either be a resounding 3 nil loss, or we'll play amazing and lose by a single goal in controversial circumstances. No in between at this place.