Froggy

It's the holy grail of the internet and I won't hear anything different.

I was waiting until the picture was ridiculed, because I got it from this forum.

Your guess is as good as mine. Apparently he's been amazing in training as well.

They're getting smashed on Saturday lads. Don't worry about it.

You're worse than us.

I think the elbow on Woltemade was the most blatant, but I only watched the clip of the incident itself and don't know any context. I'm still a bit sick about the clear red we weren't given and how long it took them to come to the decision. We're years into VAR now and there's controversy every weekend.

Because they don't know the rules. Probably the same people claiming double jeopardy for the foul on Mbeumo on Saturday. For me: Gyokeres - not a pen, clear touch on the ball Gabriel - pen, but can see the argument for the other side as he's sliding in and there is a slight ricochet, but the arm is in a ridiculous position even as he's sliding Gabriel on Woltemade - clear red, no question Bruno G handball - clear pen Also not sure what you're suggesting by me not being a neutral. Who am I leaning towards here? Our rivalry with Newcastle isn't on the same scale as our one with Arsenal so if anything I'd be leaning towards you. And if opposition fans and Newcastle fans alike can't agree on the Gyokeres/Bruno G incidents, then are the refs even wrong in the first place?

Correct, and I dislike Arsenal much, much more than Newcastle. It's clear as day. And this is the problem isn't it? I think the Gyokeres decision was correct. I think the Gabriel decision was wrong. I think Gabriel should have also been sent off. But suggesting that it should be a pen for Brunos handball is what causes uproar.

Neutrals are giving you unbiased views and you don't like it. By the book, it's a clear penalty.

He did move his hands out of the way then moved it back out again to block the ball. Hands are both pulled into his body here. His left arm is properly tucked in. Then when the ball comes closer his left hand is almost fully extended. It's a very clear pen.

You don't think Bruno's handball was a pen?

I'm only seeing the elbow on Woltemade now. That's insane. Clear red. For me the handball was a pen as well given how raised his hand was. Bruno G's handball was also a pen for me. A clear one.

What did he say that was so wrong that warranted this response? Genuine question.

We might have competition for him.

Just thought Spurs would do well. A small prediction. It's still Spurs though. Never anything to worry about long term.

He'll go back to you once we poach Eddie.

I would have thought Spurs would have gone to another level this season to be honest especially after getting CL football. That home defeat to Bournemouth is one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a "big 6" side and last night against Wolves wasn't much better. That's my point though isn't it? The league seems to be very competitive. You'd think we're heading to the Championship, but we're above Villa and Newcastle and 3 points behind Arsenal and City. Southgate will sort it out.

I wouldn't say that.

Palace are down as a hard game. They're judged to be as difficult as Newcastle.

Thanks to a shit keeper, a missed pen and a clear red not given aye.

You can do better than this Bobby.

Of course not, but just shows one win is enough to shut the numpties up. At least our next win will be against Sunderland so it's win/win for you lot either way.

No bad faith, but the teams we were expected to be rivals with are below us this season. There's ample time to get back on track whether it's with Amorim or not.

Though to be fair, you're all as fickle as the rest. One win and this thread was silent for an entire week.