Froggy

We've only lost 1 in our last 9 JT, so that can't be true? But yes, it's nauseating the amount of scrutiny the team is constantly under. People were praising Chelsea a couple of weeks ago. We're level on points with them, 1 point off 4th, with the third best attack in the league and that's having played every team in the top 11 apart from Villa. Yet if we fail to beat Bournemouth it would be dressed up as some sort of crisis. It's so fucking boring.

Wolves were absolutely rancid. Hard to remember a team as bad.

Gameweek 16 Chelsea 2-1 Everton Liverpool 2-0 Brighton Burnley 1-1 Fulham Arsenal 3-0 Wolves Palace 1-2 Man City Forest 1-1 Spurs Sunderland 1-2 Newcastle West Ham 1-1 Villa Brentford 2-1 Leeds Man United 2-1 Bournemouth

One loss in eight and two points off the top four marra.

Zirkzee started up front twice. Cunha was injured for one and started as a #10 the other. Not sure why that's relevant but hey it's not the worst post in here.

Villa 1-1 Arsenal Bournemouth 1-1 Chelsea Everton 2-1 Forest Man City 2-0 Sunderland Newcastle 2-0 Burnley Spurs 1-1 Brentford Leeds 1-2 Liverpool Brighton 2-1 West Ham Fulham 0-0 Palace Wolves 1-2 Man United

4 of them are youngsters from a different league to be fair and Isak, through his own doing, is massively off the pace as he didn't touch a ball for months.

Gameweek 13 Brentford 2-1 Burnley Man City 3-0 Leeds Sunderland 1-1 Bournemouth Everton 1-1 Newcastle Spurs 1-0 Fulham Palace 2-1 Man United Villa 2-0 Wolves Forest 1-1 Brighton West Ham 1-2 Liverpool Chelsea 2-2 Arsenal Gameweek 14 Bournemouth 1-1 Everton Fulham 0-2 Man City Newcastle 2-1 Spurs Arsenal 2-0 Brentford Brighton 1-1 Villa Burnley 1-1 Palace Wolves 2-1 Forest Leeds 1-2 Chelsea Liverpool 2-0 Sunderland Man United 2-1 West Ham

Offside goal, leg breaking challenges that deserved a red card, a clear penalty to United not given, well done on your win Everton but it’s clear cheating by the referee and VAR on multiple decisions today, they couldn’t make it more obvious today they don’t want us winning a game. If we got these decisions you guys would be saying “they’ve paid the officials man”. Everyone on here knows I’m right, enjoy your day guys.

Half the forum hiding.

The Amorim effect.

Burnley 1-2 Chelsea Bournemouth 1-1 West Ham Brighton 2-1 Brentford Fulham 2-1 Sunderland Liverpool 2-0 Forest Wolves 1-1 Palace Newcastle 1-2 Man City Leeds 1-1 Villa Arsenal 2-1 Spurs Man United 2-1 Everton

Aye he's not. He's not creative, and he's not good with the ball under pressure in passing situations. Most players have their uses in certain teams and systems though. I'm convinced he would have been a poor signing for you.

He played in a team that won multiple trophies and finished second twice to be fair. I honestly thought the criticism he got for "hiding" was a bit bizarre and never really agreed with it. He's just a limited player who had a great year. It will stabilise.

Nah. He's not the first average premier league player to go to Italy and be a success.

He scored 10 goals for us the season before going to Napoli to be fair.

Yes.

Look, the thread speaks for itself.

I'll take it if it means we're in the CL.

He's paid the same as Anthony Gordon mate.

He's scored more than Isak,.

Your points are all fair enough as I'm presenting my opinion as fact which is wrong to do, but I'm convinced there's a lot more that are verging are Howe out and they're afraid to admit it. Worth noting these aren't my thoughts on the matter either. My thoughts are that Howe is a great coach and that people wanting him sacked are morons. Manchester United fans are from the school of backing their managers to the hilt though, and we're often criticised for it.

Like you said, there's a lot of gaslighting going on. It wasn't half the forum saying "get Eddie out." and I've already admitted to hyperbole with my original statement. It was easily half and more expressing concern though at whether or not he could turn it around, and a lot of posters were afraid to say what they were really thinking. Howe is treated like a God by many on here and if you even suggest he might not be elite you're called an idiot and hounded. He's been brilliant for the majority of his tenure, but there are glaring mistakes being made now and I'm genuinely just interested in the reaction.

We've just went above Liverpool on goal difference now.