Hanshithispantz

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This is getting far too common it's just getting silly, there realy needs to be strict but fair rules set in stone.

That's on the same awfulness scale as: Blackburn, Stoke, Fulham, Sunderland, Bolton, Wolves, Wigan, West Ham, Newcastle, West Brom, Blackpool. Yes mate, absolutely full of quality that lot like...

I don't think the question is "should we aim for 17th". Hold on I may have misread the question, is this "would you accept 17th at this time" or was it meant as a hypathetical "would you take 17th if a genie offered it now"? The former I would say yes, I would accept a 17th place finish but would hope we can achieve a lot better, to the latter I would rather take the gamble and see where we end up.

By where we are now I mean we have just came up ahead of Blackpool and WBA, so thats 2 sides in the league who technicaly should be worse than us. Finishing 17th means that we would have only imroved 1 place. I agree it's a pretty poor example that doesn't realy matter though lol And it's the feeling around the club that worries me, the longer we linger about been a 'poor' club the worse our fans get and the less appealing we look to players (both at the club and coming in).

Well our targets might be different next season. This year, newly promoted, we need to ensure we stay up and anything else is a bonus. I see what the question is driving at though, it would be great to do more than survive this season so that we can push on again. I honestly think the way this club is, that if we finished 17th we would be in a worse scenario than we are now. CH may have been fired, or walked. Would Enrique or Colo be happy with our lack of progress since they joined or would they finaly start to get a little bit sick? Would HBA still be a keen as he is now? Thats how I see it anyway, I don't realy see 17th as just "staying up", it is staying up but in the worst way possible. Do you mean it would be worse than going down? No, I mean we would be in a worse scenario than we are at the present time. In the current season we are on a bit of a high having just been promoted and we actualy have a decent Premiership side. If we finish 17th then it obviosly won't be as bad as relegation, but the morale of pretty much everyon will be rock bottom.

Well our targets might be different next season. This year, newly promoted, we need to ensure we stay up and anything else is a bonus. I see what the question is driving at though, it would be great to do more than survive this season so that we can push on again. I honestly think the way this club is, that if we finished 17th we would be in a worse scenario than we are now. CH may have been fired, or walked. Would Enrique or Colo be happy with our lack of progress since they joined or would they finaly start to get a little bit sick? Would HBA still be a keen as he is now? Thats how I see it anyway, I don't realy see 17th as just "staying up", it is staying up but in the worst way possible.

How can anyone turn their noses up at it? Because we beat Villa 6-0? Does anyone remember Hull in their first season back. We won't continue this run and whilst we are good enough for closer to the top ten, we should appreciate our limitations - I'd snatch 17th with both hands right now tbh. Because finishing 17th means an appauling season, players leaving, fans on the boards back, us getting stick every week in the press, everyone in newcastle depressed every weekend... you get the drift. Finishing 17th may be survival, but it's also a year of compete torture supporting the club, we're better than a 17th place finish and I expect us to comfortably stay up. We have a fairly decent squad and will be hard to beat at home. Staying up would be an appauling season? Christ, so you're presumably on of those you say that'd be jumping on the teams back when we inevitably lose a whole wadge of games. Going down would be pretty dreadful, but i'd happily take anything else right now. "Staying up would be an appauling season?" Ermm, I never technicaly said that did I? But yes I think finishing just above the drop zone by a couple of points would be a pretty appauling season... It's not a question of whether I personaly will jump on the players backs, it's a fact though that it will happen. I've personaly never booed any player currently at this club, not even a manager that i've hated as i realy cannot see any posotive effects of it, it does happen though, and will happen if we have a poor season.

Another hyperthetical question: If you said 'yes' and would take 17th place now, then what would your answer be next year if (hypertheticaly) a genie asked you the same question? And if you answer no the second time round exactly what would have changed for you to suddenly have more belief in the team?

I would love to be seranaded by Enrique and Jonas.

Clearly half of the people on this forum have never put the lottery on.

1-5 I think we'll finish between 12-15 we actualy have a decent side and with club stability and a single manager we should have a comfortable finish. About 10th downwards in the Premiership is actualy very poor, and I think we come into the higher tier of this group, pair that with the fact that SJP is notoriously a difficult place to come and we should be safe.

I've just got a horrible feeling that we will see the inbreds completely and utterly kick and hack their way through a few of our lads. This won't be a pretty match and I can guarantee that HBA will be singled out for the inbreds 'hardman' (Cattermole?) to receive a s*** load of physical abuse. Just you watch, it'll be like Ginola v Dixon. I'd happily allow Barton to take a 3 game ban to lunge in and brake that luttle c***s ankle, I actualy hold him responsible partly for our relegation when the jumped up little tosser put Barton AND Baye out for half the season in the same game. Beye got injured at the JJB/DW, Barton got injured at SJP.....but I agree with the sentiment. ah cheers mate, but yeah point still stands he's a bellend

I've just got a horrible feeling that we will see the inbreds completely and utterly kick and hack their way through a few of our lads. This won't be a pretty match and I can guarantee that HBA will be singled out for the inbreds 'hardman' (Cattermole?) to receive a s*** load of physical abuse. Just you watch, it'll be like Ginola v Dixon. I'd happily allow Barton to take a 3 game ban to lunge in and brake that luttle cunts ankle, I actualy hold him responsible partly for our relegation when the jumped up little tosser put Barton AND Baye out for half the season in the same game.

I wonder what Gyan thought of there rascist chants then? They realy are thick as pig shit them lot like. And that ReadyToGo site is comical, "Toon Army" an embaracing nickname? Because "Red & White Army", "Make Them" and "The Black Cats" are all fucking top drawer like.

By the way i'm not saying we're good, would just rather take the gamble of us having a respectable 15-12th finish over a garenteed year of complete torture. Seriously what would finishing 17th have actualy achieved at all? How would we have built/improved? Wouldn't, infact we would be in the exact same posision as we are now, perhaps even worse as our high of been promoted would be replaced by a serious rein of depression due to the shambolic season that we would have clearly had to have finished 17th.

How can anyone turn their noses up at it? Because we beat Villa 6-0? Does anyone remember Hull in their first season back. We won't continue this run and whilst we are good enough for closer to the top ten, we should appreciate our limitations - I'd snatch 17th with both hands right now tbh. Because finishing 17th means an appauling season, players leaving, fans on the boards back, us getting stick every week in the press, everyone in newcastle depressed every weekend... you get the drift. Finishing 17th may be survival, but it's also a year of compete torture supporting the club, we're better than a 17th place finish and I expect us to comfortably stay up. We have a fairly decent squad and will be hard to beat at home.

No it's not, and it's silly to suggest so to be honest. Just because you have just been promoted doesn't mean you have to accept a poor finish, especialy a club like Newcastle. (Big differance between us and Blackpool/West Brom).

nah no way, I think theres a very little chance we will be relegated to be honest

Including reserve games... No Blackpool, Chelsea and Stoke How the hell does that work?

He went in hard from behind. No, he just stormed off in a huff because 9 others turned up wearing the same outfit as him. class

I expect these 2 blokes to strip naked and embrace soon like, definatly a shit load of sexual tention going on

Stoke fans are bellend like

1 game? He was great for us last season and so far hasn't done much to show he isn't capable of a place in our starting XI, even with Campbell and Taylor fit. He's an exelent tackler.

He definatly has talent and is a great athlete, but he realy does need to cut out these silly lunges and mistakes, as this isn't the first time. I remember him diving in down the left wing against Rangers (there winger just stoped and Perch went flying past), against Carlile (was it?) he gave away a stupid penalty, the Man U game he dreadfuly misguged the drop of the ball and ended up having to pull Nani back (luckily Enrique covered or he would have been off).