Shays Given Tim Flowers

Completely. So glad he seems to have slipped out of the England Set-up. Also on a slight Stuart Pearce Tangent (not football related) those fucking go compare adverts where they are now showing them as being the one's to stop the annoying go compare cunt. A) It's all your fault in the first place. B) You're still featuring him on your adverts. C) Stop showing any fucking adverts.

Absolutely, Pards summed it up very well in his post match on Sky. Said we had most of the play but probably Villa were the team most likely to feel they could've got all 3 points. Cisse and Ba really need some coaching about how to play together. They both just mince around in front of the back four. Ba ought to drop deeper and cisse needs to run the channels more. I thought Ba was the better of the two today (not a compliment). I really think its only the inability of the CF's to work together is the biggest hindrance of the 4-4-2. We are left with no purpose to our attacks. Also the whole 4-4-2 4-3-3 debate thing is becoming a bit of a joke. Today it was the players who let us down they need to take some responsibility. Its interesting how critical a lot of posters are in the Player threads yet don't criticise them anywhere near as much as the system they are playing in. 1 or 2 poor performances you can often attribute to a specific system. 5 or 6 is inexcusable. Feel Anita, Santon, Bigi, HBA (though often lacking purpose IMO) and Colo were the best of our lot today. Ba and Cisse's inability to play together up front probably is the biggest problem with a 4-4-2, but it is by no means the only problem. Yorkie's summed up most of them in the relevant thread so no point relisting them. Also, coaching can only go so far - you can't turn them into different players when they both line up through the middle. years of previous coaching, instinct, and to be frank - goal scoring greed - will usually trump that. If you force them to take up a different position, of course, they kind of have to live with it. As for the bolded part - i'd say the opposite is true. the longer it goes on the clearer a sign that it is the system that is culpable. not saying it's the only issue at present - i also think fitness, the extra demands and decreased preparation time that comes with European qualification, and questionable attitude from one of two like Cabaye play a role, but the formation is compounding and amplifying these issues. Case in point - is Cabaye isn't moving around the pitch freely than you should seek to remedy that by surrounding him with more mobile players. this happened to a degree 2nd half and we and him improved a tad. same rationale should be applied to other issues we have = ie Ba and Cisse not gelling, Ben Arfa stranded too deep etc. If the biggest problem with the system can be rectified then I think that 1 point today becomes 3. Then the size of other perceived inefficiencies diminishes. Sorry to pick on that point in your second paragraph but to attribute a degree of fault to their previous coaching (I know other factors are listed) whilst saying coaching can only go so far seems a little backward. Also its not rocket science. Ba was dropping deep when lining up with ameobi and best last season. Asking Cisse to run channels occasionally will also stretch defences and allow ben arfa some support in advanced wide areas whilst giving him space to run into. I would say the situation is not too dissimilar to when SBR came in and told Shearer that he had his back to goal too much ('im not seeing your number 9'). Im not trying to revolutionise either of their play but it would enable us to stretch teams more and arguably therefore create more chances for the two of them. Agree with you on the movement off the ball though. Its worrying just how static we are. Good post always interesting to hear how other people see our problems, though its making me think way too much for this late on a sunday.

Absolutely, Pards summed it up very well in his post match on Sky. Said we had most of the play but probably Villa were the team most likely to feel they could've got all 3 points. Cisse and Ba really need some coaching about how to play together. They both just mince around in front of the back four. Ba ought to drop deeper and cisse needs to run the channels more. I thought Ba was the better of the two today (not a compliment). I really think its only the inability of the CF's to work together is the biggest hindrance of the 4-4-2. We are left with no purpose to our attacks. Also the whole 4-4-2 4-3-3 debate thing is becoming a bit of a joke. Today it was the players who let us down they need to take some responsibility. Its interesting how critical a lot of posters are in the Player threads yet don't criticise them anywhere near as much as the system they are playing in. 1 or 2 poor performances you can often attribute to a specific system. 5 or 6 is inexcusable. Feel Anita, Santon, Bigi, HBA (though often lacking purpose IMO) and Colo were the best of our lot today.

Lovely professional foul.

great block by bagheera.

Geremi back on corners?

Hatem is making me laugh so much today.

We've only committed 3 fouls. Not sure if

he the gallowgate

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From the Beeb. MOTD's Alistair Mann at Sports Direct Arena: "Newcastle's fans seem shell-shocked and they'll be going off for their half-time cups of tea with bemused looks on their faces. In truth Villa are good value for their lead and, when Newcastle have had opportunities, they've found Brad Guzan in good form in the Villa goal." Do me a fucking favour.

LOL "thats where Danny Simpson is missed" (On Anita's Crossing)

Nuisance, Anita was playing fairly well.

I've seen more movement from bowls of cereal.

10 santons would be nice.

Well that was obvious.

Santon so good at headers.

Annoying for sure. Still not a patch on Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea. Chelsea, Chelsea Chelsea. F**kery.

Second. Pards always finishes second. Think we have a decent chance of 5th.

Could see him on some armband duties by the end of the season.

http://www.nufcblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/derek_llambias_black_hole.jpg Bite the pillow. Im going in dry.

Real shame. Careers are short enough without this amount of time out. At least he can spend more time with his bairn now.

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Those are the success stories. Who are the other winners of the Nike Cup Player of the Tournament? I did try and find out and was just putting the information there as a point of conversation rather than trying to place Campbell in that bracket.