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Wallsendmag will be fuming even more since he insists Leeds have never been a big club. They aren't. s*** history, s*** crowds historically, and a shithole of a stadium! Yeah, you just need to convince the rest of the country now, we've had a week of stories and tv debates about how great it is to have Leeds back in the big time. But keep at it, your one man campaign to declare Leeds a historically small club might snowball into something bigger. Didn't say they were small, they're just not that big. Crowd wise, trophy wise, stadium wise, all bang average really. They've spent more of their history outside of the top division than in it ffs. There's literally nothing there that can define them as a big club. Are we still talking about English football? Maybe your idea of a big football club is one which is a worldwide CL giant? There are 9 clubs in England who are historically bigger than Leeds, arguably 10 if you include the mackems. Leeds only had their 100th anniversary a year or so ago. They were good in the 70s which is why the boomers generation get all misty eyed about them and why they have so many fans in Norway and Ireland as that's when those 2 countries started showing English football on tv. But that once you look past the hype there is objectively very little to differentiate them from a Sheffield Wednesday or even a West Brom in terms of attendance and trophies. The city is mint for drinking in though and I've got to say I do like Elland Road as a stadium even if it isn't all polished and sparkly. But it's not just the boomers who get misty eyed about Leeds, we've had a week of journalists and pundits wanking off about Leeds returning to the Premier. It's a shame there's not likely to be crowds next season, otherwise you would have seen the difference between a Leeds fanbase and the Sheffield/West Brom ones. As for Sunderland, well my heart bleeds for them in the third division. Oh what a tragedy. As for those who don't want to discuss these random topics in this thread, feel free to update us on the riveting takeover updates, no doubt we'll all get so hyped we can't talk about anything else! Aye and what generation do you think most (not all admittedly) of the pundits are?? We don't need hypothetical crowds for next season to know that Sheff Wed have averaged higher attendances through their history than Leeds, that's not an opinion it's an objective fact. Similarly that they've won exactly the same amount of major trophies as west brom. I'm not trying to piss on anyone's parade and by all means carry on getting excited that Barcelona of Beeston are back where they belong if you want but Wallsend mag is quite correct when he says that Leeds are not one of the giants of English football despite the exaggerated opinion they have of themselves and despite the media's indulgence of said opinion.

People getting radge about this thread going off topic is making me For the record the beer garden in the Oak in Headingley is one of the best places in the country to watch an England match in the Euros/World Cup, and that's my final word on the matter. Scouts honour.

Wallsendmag will be fuming even more since he insists Leeds have never been a big club. They aren't. s*** history, s*** crowds historically, and a shithole of a stadium! Yeah, you just need to convince the rest of the country now, we've had a week of stories and tv debates about how great it is to have Leeds back in the big time. But keep at it, your one man campaign to declare Leeds a historically small club might snowball into something bigger. Didn't say they were small, they're just not that big. Crowd wise, trophy wise, stadium wise, all bang average really. They've spent more of their history outside of the top division than in it ffs. There's literally nothing there that can define them as a big club. Are we still talking about English football? Maybe your idea of a big football club is one which is a worldwide CL giant? There are 9 clubs in England who are historically bigger than Leeds, arguably 10 if you include the mackems. Leeds only had their 100th anniversary a year or so ago. They were good in the 70s which is why the boomers generation get all misty eyed about them and why they have so many fans in Norway and Ireland as that's when those 2 countries started showing English football on tv. But that once you look past the hype there is objectively very little to differentiate them from a Sheffield Wednesday or even a West Brom in terms of attendance and trophies. The city is mint for drinking in though and I've got to say I do like Elland Road as a stadium even if it isn't all polished and sparkly.

So strange that it's been the conventional way of distributing sports broadcast packages across most of the Middle East, Spanish-speaking Latin America and vast swathes of Africa for decades. So strange! Yes, it is strange because it seems like a completely backward way to offer content. What if a French company outbid all UK companies and took Bundesliga, La Liga, Formula 1, NFL and only allowed you to watch it via their set top box or online subscription service? What if within that time frame relations between France and UK went completely backwards? It's not an issue to you Penn, because you're sitting at your home far away from the area. I'm not defending Saudi in this, I'm just saying it's f***ing odd when you think about it deep down. Put yourself in their shoes. But if that's how the rights are sold, that's how they're sold. If you can't watch something for some reason, tough s***. You have no intrinsic human right to watch football matches. I mean, most of the 3pm games are available in countries which are NOT the UK, but we can't watch them. That's just how life works. We have the right to watch the things we have the rights to, that's it. People in China can watch different PL games to people in Spain, who see different games to people in MENA. Everything is packaged up and sold as the PL wish, and there's f*** all any of us can do about it (legally). We, or indeed any of those countries, certainly can't just decide to rip up the agreements that the PL legally struck with any country or territory just because we don't like the deal's impact on us. That's nonsense. And yes the way the PL offer out content IS backwards. It has been for years. It will continue to be so for years because their objective isn't to offer what works best for the consumer but to maximise their own revenue. Watching SA devalue BeIN's contract by unilaterally banning them from broadcasting in the largest country in the region they hold the rights to is NEVER going to go down well with the PL. A company, the PL, whose sole purpose is to maximise revenue, has watched one of its major rights holders have their rights massively devalued and are then have the country who did that ask them to approve their ownership of Newcastle. I can completely understand why the PL are somewhat reluctant to do this. You can't watch them but somehow find a way to do so. I'm not arguing with you on the PL's point of view either, totally makes sense too. Just trying to think clearly about this whole thing (which is a f***ing mess). I would like to know if the countries within the region agreed to be part of this or not. I assume they did, but not sure. The deal that Bein has for exclusive MENA rights is with the PL only. It means the PL can't sell rights to broadcast anywhere else within that region for the time frame that the agreement covers. It's on Bein to make sure it has the legal right to broadcast in each country and neither Bein nor the PL have the legal power to force any jurisdiction to allow any rights-holder to broadcast within its territory. One would imagine that most broadcasters will be confident of establishing this before bidding for rights packages and that the likelihood of being able to do so would to an extent be reflected in the negotiated price of the package. Trying to work out the implications here is less straightforward. It may be that KSA have banned Bein this in an attempt to force them to pack it in with influencing the PL re the takeover, it might even be that KSA has legitimate grievances with Bein's practices being contrary to Saudi law. Either way, the move will have royally pissed off Bein as the value of its rights package has effectively been diminished and in all likelihood has pissed off the PL as not only is it getting more of a headache from Bein but this has potentially reduced the price its MENA rights package will fetch next time it comes round. There are many ways to piss the PL off but negatively impacting on one of its revenue streams is the absolute doozey. The PL can't fail the takeover purely on thise grounds, but if the PL suspect that the banning of Bein is contrived and contrary to existing Saudi law then that could maybe put PIF in jeopardy of failing the test on the "act of dishonesty" rule??

someone tries to explain: but he still feels hard done by: Imagine the confusion and fewm when they start on -12

Definitely not a moral check been carried out that's for sure, or this was dead in the water the moment it was put forward. They've prioritised their IP and money seemingly, hardly a shock. In my view the problem Masters has is that last time the rules were updated they didn't foresee a situation like this where there would be a potential takeover which by all accounts is unpopular with a lot of member clubs (boohoo) and more importantly one of the league's biggest sponsors. He surely wants to reject it but there's no written rule saying that takeovers can be vetoed by a broadcasting partner. So they'll keep digging away with the piracy until either they've got enough to reject or time itself has cone to an end. But yes, even he knows that rightly or wrongly the PL can't reject on moral grounds

I'll be honest mate, I preferred you when you were on Geordie Shore, I really did. THE Geordie Steve? Only if you ignore the other 709

I'll be honest mate, I preferred you when you were on Geordie Shore, I really did.

Yep, can't knock Henderson- he might be limited in talent but you can tell he's made the absolute most of what he does have through discipline, work, training hard and living the lifestyle of a professional as opposed to going getting shit faced and trying to abuse as many naive lasses as he can. He might be a tit when it comes to us but you've got to respect the way he goes about his career. In reference your last sentence I'd add it was notable how much he influenced the ref at SJP last season. Apart from one decision in the build up to Rondons goal Henderson pretty much took the whistle and cards at kick off, refereed the match and returned them to the ref at the final whistle. It's an underrated skill and one that's harder than it looks to get right.

Only from #cans like, none of that poncey bottled stuff.

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All of this is absolutely correct, of course. But as you allude to in your last sentence it's still fucking shameful that people have been trying to get the cunt sacked.

Ffs!!!

I didn't see the courtroom proceedings but bear in mind that a big part of the cross examining counsel's job is to elicit mistakes, exaggerate them, trip her up with semantics, anything to essentially undermine her credibility in the eyes of the court so that they give less weight to her evidence. And this cross-examining counsel who has been appointed for a case like this no doubt gets paid a s*** ton of money for being very very very good at his job.

One thing that really didn't make sense about all this was that there doesn't seem to be the political will to finish that league anyway, and if not then the games won't played even behind closed doors and they'll presumably have to give refunds. They've just created all this bad PR for a situation which probably won't even come to pass.

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Doesn't Ashley have form for this sort of bullshit? Sure I read once that he bought goods on credit, waited until the seller sokd them in good faith and had paid for them to be shipped, then he locked his warehouse doors and decided to "renegotiate" the price?? You'd hope the buyers' lawyers would have made sure the paperwork was watertight this time given it's an expensive transaction and the nature of who they're dealing with. Even if not, worst case scenario he gets an extra 10mill of oil money to spunk away down Lambeezeys casino, wouldn't worry about it.

He's moved on from the child-murderer rubbish to be fair, which has to be seen as an improvement at least. Think there's an element of bravado or attention seeking about it on his part. I mean given his position it should be easy enough for him to retain the moral high ground but he seems determined to throw it away. Fwiw he does of course have some valid points but he's made them last week. But there are also some significant merits to the takeover for the club and city and by refusing to acknowledge these points or that people coming at it from a different perspective may take a different opinion which is also valid he's just coming across as a stroppy twat.

I never said you had used it. You wet yourself whenever anyone says they find it embarrassing though. Shouting about how p*ssed you're going to get is just not something I've ever found particularly funny. Your mileage may vary. Who gives a f*** what you think is funny? You sound like a right boring b******, going around tutting at people and telling people what they should and shouldn't think. If people want to say #cans, let them. For absolutely no reason whatsoever I just imagined Mohammad bin Salman saying this to someone... "You sound like a right boring b******, going around tutting at people and telling people who they should and shouldn't behead. If people want to behead others, let them." :lol:

This right here is why we need to keep our feet firmly on the ground if this goes through. I well remember the feeling of gleeful optimism I had back in 2007.... Remember saying similar to others at the time but being told constantly that we had one of the best owners in the league. You know what made him better than other billionaire owners? He was a BRITISH billionaire you see, not one of those horrible forrin types. Amazing to think only 13 years ago that was standard crack from fans and iirc some newspaper columnists.

All this beer nonsense. You get all these beer people don't you? Beer this, beer that. Sometimes you just want to say, sod all this beer, just give me a post of, takeover talk.

As should Coppers of Gosforth. Usually use Rehills as it's about a 45 second walk for me.......dangerously close. Coppers is at the bottom of my street, literally. Definitely ('hic') dangerous . . but seemingly I like danger !!! It's at the top of my mam and dads street- always nip in for a pint when I'm back up and usually end up spending about £30 on cans to take home. Drew the owner is a cracking lad as well.

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Oh come on. I mean yes, I'd accept it. I'd accept being kicked in the balls to get rid of Ashley too, but it'd be f***ing horrific watching Bruce being given an army of superstars and grinding out a 9th place finish whilst the media crow over how he's turned the club around. Just f*** no. Get rid of him on day 1. End of season at the very latest if they want to just get over the line and get someone new in the summer, but he should be sacked as soon as humanly possible and someone less resembling a human cabbage placed in charge instead, because anything else will be utterly galling. Why buy a Ferrari just to put a three-legged post-roadkill stoat at the wheel? Not saying it's my first choice scenario clearly but yeah, I could probably take it on the chin and in good humour for a year or so knowing that the long game is going to play out so much better. I'd probably take some smug satisfaction as well from the reaction of his mates in the media as he utterly fails and they realise appointing a stottie cake on legs as manager instead of someone that knows what they're doing is in reality a s*** idea. To take the analogy further it would be a bit like watching a three-legged dead stoat driving your ferrari and crashing it into a lamppost in the smug knowledge it doesn't matter because you can afford to replace it with a hangar full of ferraris, aston martins, lamborghinis and porsches. It's frustrating in the short term but a bit funny and in the end there are no real long term consequences. And if he somehow manages to succeed?? f*** me, look at us, we've got a dead stoat that can drive cars. Towards the end of writing that I had a flashback to our fans singing "steve bruce is one of our own" and "steve bruce gets 3 points everywhere he goes." On reflection I've reconsidered and nothing other than a public booting out on day 1 shackled to the rock of shame will do

Oh come on. I mean yes, I'd accept it. I'd accept being kicked in the balls to get rid of Ashley too, but it'd be f***ing horrific watching Bruce being given an army of superstars and grinding out a 9th place finish whilst the media crow over how he's turned the club around. Just f*** no. Get rid of him on day 1. End of season at the very latest if they want to just get over the line and get someone new in the summer, but he should be sacked as soon as humanly possible and someone less resembling a human cabbage placed in charge instead, because anything else will be utterly galling. Why buy a Ferrari just to put a three-legged post-roadkill stoat at the wheel? Not saying it's my first choice scenario clearly but yeah, I could probably take it on the chin and in good humour for a year or so knowing that the long game is going to play out so much better. I'd probably take some smug satisfaction as well from the reaction of his mates in the media as he utterly fails and they realise appointing a stottie cake on legs as manager instead of someone that knows what they're doing is in reality a shit idea. To take the analogy further it would be a bit like watching a three-legged dead stoat driving your ferrari and crashing it into a lamppost in the smug knowledge it doesn't matter because you can afford to replace it with a hangar full of ferraris, aston martins, lamborghinis and porsches. It's frustrating in the short term but a bit funny and in the end there are no real long term consequences. And if he somehow manages to succeed?? Fuck me, look at us, we've got a dead stoat that can drive cars.