WTF?
Probably about right although maybe up to an 8 if we lost. This thread is always ridiculously pessimistic. I remember loads of people were at 8 or 9s before the last game of last season, when looking at the fixtures and what needed to happen a 2 or 3 would have been more appropriate
can't see where that level of optimism comes from if mcclaren stays in charge
Well a 6 or 7 implies that we will probably get relegated but it is possible that Norwich and Sunderland could be worse than us, I'd call that realistic not optomistic