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They are basically the innovator of related party inflated deals. Also, a lot of sponsors they have were found to shell companies with no operations. FFP circumventing basically, but at the time they did it, everyone closed an eye.

Game over in terms of competing for the league. We can only grow our revenue so much, but hi would I sponsor us when I can sponsor man united? In order to be as big as them we need to be able to invest which the rules prevent. We are playing on the most competitive league in the world, if city have a blip we have 5 other behemoths to compete with, we simply aren’t even close to being in that league.

Even if we do increase revenue we are still way behind, the kind of revenue increases we’ve seen are due to being low handing fruit. Sure we’ve left some money on the table with a lack of training ground sponsorship and training kit sponsor but with FMV rules this is also tricky. I imagine any deals for there would obviously lag the big 6’s deal. What are you expecting exactly?

Precisely obviously the details have been outlined, but I imagine the punishments are what matters, if they remain the same with immediate points deduction for breaches it’s game over.

Well this is the point and what people should be questioning, it’s impossible to challenge with such a disparity on what we can spend, we might push champions league but as for winning the league forget it, won’t happen. The owners acknowledge this in the documentary, hence my wider question about have they got carried away making stupid statements? Wouldn’t be the first time right? (Staveley about Bruce, Mehdrad about the atmosphere). As @FloydianMag has said relentlessly if we don’t challenge these rules legally the stated aims won’t be achieved. So it’s up to everyone to read between the lines and come up with their own assessment.

Not sure why we entertain them, it’s either pay or wait. Let them negotiate with some intern who can promptly through the minutes in the bin.

Kieran Maguire has come out saying these new FFP rules are great for the big 6 and terrible for us and Villa.

Aye yeah, I definitely haven’t been a broken record on this subject.

Indeed, let’s wait and see. and I am banging my drum, your right now a famous tweeter has repeated what I’ve been saying it might get through to some people.

I think we need to start to accept the ambitions stated by our owners are overzealous and incorrect. I don’t want to hear anymore crying from us about FFP when we vote for these rules.

We’ve voted for everything thus far apart from the temporary ban on related sponsors. Me thinks the on the record ambitions and the real ambitions don’t align.

The best placed sources we have and all they done is drone on about absolute nonsense.

These new rules are terrible for us, no allowance for owner investment and IF related party transaction rules remain we are stuck on the outside looking in.

This the fella from populous begging for the job again?

Sure throw in a next sale % and a buy back clause and it’s the perfect deal

We don’t really have a captain these days, it’s more of a leadership group which he should be sort of this point.

Well done gaffa you deserve a lot of credit for that turnaround.

Crocked again, sell please.

Impossible, he’s literally de-valuing himself with every performance atm.

Cmon boys we are much better than this injuries or not.

Of course it is, but such is life. We are getting conflicting reports about the future direction so we will have to wait for more news.

The premier league want to adopt the metrics not the punishments. It’s clear all of this stuff is up in the air so let’s see how it turn out.

Got it, if we have no headroom then yes, I’d sell. If we have some room to play with or can make it some money flogging some fringe players then I’d keep.

If his release clause is met we have no say in the matter.

Something worth investigating for sure, I’ve noticed our players always seem to slip, I originally thought this was because they were wearing the wrong studs but maybe there’s more to it.