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Aye same here. Can see him wanting the "work-rate" of Gouffran instead. Eh they will both play in the 451 imo

Alan is right to be honest no negative manager worth their salt would concede anything like the amount of goals he does. He's just a shit manager and that's not a theory it's a fact. Good job dispelling at Alan.

Are we really classing De Jong as an orthodox central midfielder now? He's a central midfielder, even though he will be playing more advanced than our other central midfielders and just of the striker. The point is that he was injured or not match fit for some games at the same time as Tiote, so bearing that in mind you are going to need at east 1 back up midfield in the team to replace him (although this midfielder isn't going to be advanced or play exactly how he plays), guess who our back up central midfielder s? He's the guy who replaced last year's Gosling who was back up, yes, it's Colback. Do you really believe that? You really believe he came here from our biggest rivals to warm the bench? Do we really have to have this debate again where I say it's not much of a big deal that he came from Sunderland since he's a boyhood Newcastle fan, then someone pulls out pictures of him over celebrating, then I or someone else says that he got carried away with peer pressure. Are we really going to have this debate again? No we don't because that's not the subject at hand. The point is he will be starting out in central midfield imo and Anita will be warming the bench. 6 and two 3's to me if that is what happens. Anita can have good games, but a lot of the time he can be outmuscled off the ball, offers no threat from set pieces either by taking them or being in them. You've surpassed yourself with this post mate. By having an alternative opinion and thinking the difference in quality between Anita and Colback isn't all that much. When will I learn that having an opinion other than the one of the majority on N-O isn't allowed? Was referring to your criticisms of Anita. You can have whatever opinions you like for me but the original point was Colback will be a starter and given his lack of ability I'd prefer he wasn't. Anita has good games, but he is weak in a lot of areas. His height means that on set pieces he has a weakness, be it defending them or attacking them. I seem to remember a few times last season his height allowed for other to win the header against him rather easily. When attacking he can't gain the same height to get ahead of the defender, and him taking set pieces hasn't resulted in a decent ball into the box despite him having more promise than Cabaye taking them. On the ball I've seen him beaten for pace and outdone when in possession or challenging for possession a few times. He can pick out a good pass though and spread play well. I think most people will agree that he has good games and can really be the hidden star in a match, but his constancy is not there. Colback is also on the smaller side though? And in a team which was managed properly wouldn't be anywhere near taking set pieces. The reason why this argument is bullshit though is because it doesn't actually matter and on this basis we'd be starting Raylor. Anita can easily stay back when we are attacking setpieces and provide cover and stand on the posts when we are defending them. As for footballing ability, tactical ability etc Anita is superior. Colback is probly better in the tackle and slightly stronger physically but other than that.

Are we really classing De Jong as an orthodox central midfielder now? He's a central midfielder, even though he will be playing more advanced than our other central midfielders and just of the striker. The point is that he was injured or not match fit for some games at the same time as Tiote, so bearing that in mind you are going to need at east 1 back up midfield in the team to replace him (although this midfielder isn't going to be advanced or play exactly how he plays), guess who our back up central midfielder s? He's the guy who replaced last year's Gosling who was back up, yes, it's Colback. Do you really believe that? You really believe he came here from our biggest rivals to warm the bench? Do we really have to have this debate again where I say it's not much of a big deal that he came from Sunderland since he's a boyhood Newcastle fan, then someone pulls out pictures of him over celebrating, then I or someone else says that he got carried away with peer pressure. Are we really going to have this debate again? No we don't because that's not the subject at hand. The point is he will be starting out in central midfield imo and Anita will be warming the bench. 6 and two 3's to me if that is what happens. Anita can have good games, but a lot of the time he can be outmuscled off the ball, offers no threat from set pieces either by taking them or being in them. You've surpassed yourself with this post mate. By having an alternative opinion and thinking the difference in quality between Anita and Colback isn't all that much. When will I learn that having an opinion other than the one of the majority on N-O isn't allowed? Was referring to your criticisms of Anita. You can have whatever opinions you like for me but the original point was Colback will be a starter and given his lack of ability I'd prefer he wasn't.

Are we really classing De Jong as an orthodox central midfielder now? He's a central midfielder, even though he will be playing more advanced than our other central midfielders and just of the striker. The point is that he was injured or not match fit for some games at the same time as Tiote, so bearing that in mind you are going to need at east 1 back up midfield in the team to replace him (although this midfielder isn't going to be advanced or play exactly how he plays), guess who our back up central midfielder s? He's the guy who replaced last year's Gosling who was back up, yes, it's Colback. Do you really believe that? You really believe he came here from our biggest rivals to warm the bench? Do we really have to have this debate again where I say it's not much of a big deal that he came from Sunderland since he's a boyhood Newcastle fan, then someone pulls out pictures of him over celebrating, then I or someone else says that he got carried away with peer pressure. Are we really going to have this debate again? No we don't because that's not the subject at hand. The point is he will be starting out in central midfield imo and Anita will be warming the bench. 6 and two 3's to me if that is what happens. Anita can have good games, but a lot of the time he can be outmuscled off the ball, offers no threat from set pieces either by taking them or being in them. You've surpassed yourself with this post mate.

Are we really classing De Jong as an orthodox central midfielder now? He's a central midfielder, even though he will be playing more advanced than our other central midfielders and just of the striker. The point is that he was injured or not match fit for some games at the same time as Tiote, so bearing that in mind you are going to need at east 1 back up midfield in the team to replace him (although this midfielder isn't going to be advanced or play exactly how he plays), guess who our back up central midfielder s? He's the guy who replaced last year's Gosling who was back up, yes, it's Colback. Do you really believe that? You really believe he came here from our biggest rivals to warm the bench? Do we really have to have this debate again where I say it's not much of a big deal that he came from Sunderland since he's a boyhood Newcastle fan, then someone pulls out pictures of him over celebrating, then I or someone else says that he got carried away with peer pressure. Are we really going to have this debate again? No we don't because that's not the subject at hand. The point is he will be starting out in central midfield imo and Anita will be warming the bench.

Are we really classing De Jong as an orthodox central midfielder now? He's a central midfielder, even though he will be playing more advanced than our other central midfielders and just of the striker. The point is that he was injured or not match fit for some games at the same time as Tiote, so bearing that in mind you are going to need at east 1 back up midfield in the team to replace him (although this midfielder isn't going to be advanced or play exactly how he plays), guess who our back up central midfielder s? He's the guy who replaced last year's Gosling who was back up, yes, it's Colback. Do you really believe that? You really believe he came here from our biggest rivals to warm the bench?

Are we really classing De Jong as an orthodox central midfielder now?

This is how I see it as well. Will still be shocked to see him chosen over willo though.

Whatever it takes this cunt us nothing but killjoy.

erm, what? who said colback is cabayes replacement? Given Cabaye started in central midfield more often than not and Colback will also start in central midfield it's not a stretch to say he's the Cabaye replacement. Different sort of player sure but replacement all the same. I think it's quite the stretch to say that, so I disagree. De Jong is the closest we'll get to yohans replacement. He's captain material, he's smart and he scores goals. Colback is a decent squad player, who isn't known for creating chances and will basically just be used as a tidy central midfielder to keep things ticking over. I thought colback did fine in the pre-season games I watched and will be a good backup player this season. I agree with most that anita should always start ahead of him but like any player, he should be played on merit and not just because he's a local lad, etc. Colback will be a starter in central midfield where Cabaye started the vast majority of his games for us. I'm not sure where this stretch is to be honest. The stretch I mentioned was that you think colback is cabaye's replacement. We all know what colback's position is, central midfield, that's obvious, but I reckon he won't be a starter for us. As I said earlier, if he does the business for us, then of course he should start but if he starts against man city, it's only due to tiote/de jong being unavailable. Anyhoo Anita will be dropped Pardew has never fancied him but has played him due to lack of alternatives. Colback is such a Pardew player man.

erm, what? who said colback is cabayes replacement? Given Cabaye started in central midfield more often than not and Colback will also start in central midfield it's not a stretch to say he's the Cabaye replacement. Different sort of player sure but replacement all the same. I think it's quite the stretch to say that, so I disagree. De Jong is the closest we'll get to yohans replacement. He's captain material, he's smart and he scores goals. Colback is a decent squad player, who isn't known for creating chances and will basically just be used as a tidy central midfielder to keep things ticking over. I thought colback did fine in the pre-season games I watched and will be a good backup player this season. I agree with most that anita should always start ahead of him but like any player, he should be played on merit and not just because he's a local lad, etc. Colback will be a starter in central midfield where Cabaye started the vast majority of his games for us. I'm not sure where this stretch is to be honest.

We know full well but he appears to be more of a support striker than a central midfielder.

erm, what? who said colback is cabayes replacement? Given Cabaye started in central midfield more often than not and Colback will also start in central midfield it's not a stretch to say he's the Cabaye replacement. Different sort of player sure but replacement all the same.

3 at the back

Isn't Colback Ste's mate? Lol

This is the best we can hope for today. I just can't see it happening though.

Hope we get hammered anything which prolongs Pardews stay is

Colback isn't his first choice though as soon as Tiote is fit he will be on the bench /s

I disagree with the point about a rebellion today if we are beaten badly.

I think a quarter of the forum would concur. Short term pain, long term gain

Doesn't matter zero pence will be going into the transfer kitty also sky money, wonga money etc. etc. etc. Doesn't stop my curiosity lol. Also makes me wonder if it's a signal of intent about Ashley and his long term future.

Aye, still wondering how much we've got from Puma for our deal.

If we get hammered and kick off will that constitute knee-jerk?

Champions League then? I wish we wouldn't do a thing and achieve that