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It'd have been more effective and realistic if they sent Colo out 5 minutes before the game on Saturday with a microphone to say his piece without a script rather than this letter.

Absolutely spot on. Those who attend on Saturday should get 100% behind the team (apart from the usual Ashley Out moment). Even if we fall 1-0, 2-0, 3-0 down, every single person in that stadium should make every attempt to get behind them. If we lose, the fans cant be to blame. If we win, we survive and we can then continue the ferocious assaults on Ashley. I still like the idea of a sit in rather than a boycott. 10k empty seats don't really have the same effect as 10k sitting behind for an hour and half hurling abuse at Ashley. Obviously this wont happen, but it'd be nice. As for the letter, no doubt this was one of the "plans to make everything right" from the squad meeting on Monday. Not a chance did Colo write this mind.

That's the issue I'm highlighting - nobody will pay £350m for a Championship team, which means he will not sell us. The only realistic way of NUFC being sold is if we are in the Premier League. There is no hope on Earth that Ashley would sell us at a loss to himself, so going down will mean we do not get sold. Why not? Unsure if you are referring to the first part of that or the second. If we go down, as said above, nobody will buy us for Ashley's valuation - a team in the Championship in absolute tatters would not be worth the risk to anyone. As for the first part, as everyone has previously said - Ashley is a good businessman (along with a complete wanker and awful football bloke) and only cares about his bank balance. He would not sell us at a loss, not a chance at all. Even making his life hell would not make him sell at a loss, he'll just not attend (as he is doing now).

Spot on. But then again, even a team who goes for a 0-0 against us will have ample chances to score because of how poor we are. The only hope we have of staying up is if Cisse is fit and De Jong sits at home in bubble wrap.

That's the issue I'm highlighting - nobody will pay £350m for a Championship team, which means he will not sell us. The only realistic way of NUFC being sold is if we are in the Premier League. There is no hope on Earth that Ashley would sell us at a loss to himself, so going down will mean we do not get sold.

He's the equivalent of a man selling lemonade outside his house being asked to run Coca Cola. Clueless, but will not admit it as he's being paid handsomely and nobody else would give him the same opportunity.

The only other player (apart from Jonas) to go over to supporters after the game to sign some kiddies autographs. The rest all cowered onto the coach without a second glance.

I am of the opinion that MA would sell us immediately if he was offered the right price. He's a businessman as we all know and he'd drop us straight away if an offer was made that he thought benefitted him. The problem is, nobody has made that offer - and there is no talk of anyone even looking at doing it. Even if we burn down the stadium with Ashley inside it, he cant sell us without a buyer. I boycotted against Tottenham, have held up relevant signs and chants as others have - but ultimately we are just telling Ashley he's a cunt (which is still good). Hopefully, the current intense media coverage of AshleyOut will just increase the possibility of someone making an offer.

They may have just released a statement saying "nobody else wants it, so we've crossed our fingers".

John Carver FC:- Could do anything, it is impossible to say how we'll perform at the moment. I expect anything from 0-5 points from out last three games, we have no chance of winning more than one. Putting us somewhere from 35 - 40 points. Leicester:- Play QPR on the last day (who will already be down) so they'll win that Will get something against Sunderland and/or Southampton Fully expect Leicester to get 3-6 more points putting them on 37-40 points Hull:- Hopefully, Everton will beat Sunderland in the early kick off (otherwise Burnley will be relegated before they kick off). Expect Burnley to put up a fight and get a draw if they are still in the fight. If they win tonight (which I don't expect them to) we are firmly in the brown stuff. They will lose or draw all of their other games, maybe getting 2-4 points along the way (at the very most) putting them on 36 - 38 points. Sunderland:- Could quite easily beat Everton as both teams have potential to be really awful, if they do we are screwed. Cannot see them beating Leicester, I expect a draw or away win. Will lose their other two games, so will pick up somewhere between 2-6 points along the way (at the very most) putting them on 35 - 39 points. Burnley and QPR will both be relegated either this weekend or next and their own relevance is putting in performances against the clubs around us to do us a favour. Therefore, if we lose our remaining three games, the only way we'll survive is if Sunderland pick up 2 or less points and get thumped with more goals than us. 1 win and we are safe, as the likelihood of all of the other 3 getting 4 or more points is ridiculous (especially with Leicester playing Sunderland). 1-2 points and it'll be touch and go. I think our fate will be decided ultimately by Everton v Sunderland due to the knock of effect to other fixtures (their confidence, Burnley's performance against Hull etc).

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/benidorm/images/7/78/Lesley_Marshall.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120306131446 Looks like Carver's found a new job already.

Got to say I was disappointed to log in this evening and find out I was out-c*nted. Cheers Mako.

I'll put my attendance record against yours anytime of the day - how dare you even start to try and criticise people for not going because the club is being ran dry and not one ounce of ambition being demonstrated. Subject is ridiculous is it - don't talk utter s*** and while you're at it f*** off superfan wannabe! Thanks for your delightful response. If you care to read my post properly, I was referring to people who are happy to walk away from the club completely and not just not attend games. Not attending games can be down to preference, money, travel etc. I have no issue with fans who cannot/choose not to attend games, I have an issue with fans who change supporting clubs like picking a new t-shirt. And I am one who is more than happy to walk away after 40 years of attending games due to the state of the club in every single department - I don't criticise you for attending so don't even dare to criticise me for not attending. As I said I'll put my attendance record against yours any day of the week. Would you walk back to the club in 20 years with no Ashley, open exciting attacking football, trophies and hooter's providing the bar staff? If the answer is a no, then fair play.

I'll put my attendance record against yours anytime of the day - how dare you even start to try and criticise people for not going because the club is being ran dry and not one ounce of ambition being demonstrated. Subject is ridiculous is it - don't talk utter s*** and while you're at it f*** off superfan wannabe! Thanks for your delightful response. If you care to read my post properly, I was referring to people who are happy to walk away from the club completely and not just not attend games. Not attending games can be down to preference, money, travel etc. I have no issue with fans who cannot/choose not to attend games, I have an issue with fans who change supporting clubs like picking a new t-shirt. Who's doing that like? I've not said nobody has - if you read my initial post in this thread... I've not read any of the previous posts in this thread, so apologies if this is not in line with the current chat. The subject of this thread is ridiculous, if our current situation deters you from supporting our club - good riddance.

I'll put my attendance record against yours anytime of the day - how dare you even start to try and criticise people for not going because the club is being ran dry and not one ounce of ambition being demonstrated. Subject is ridiculous is it - don't talk utter s*** and while you're at it f*** off superfan wannabe! Thanks for your delightful response. If you care to read my post properly, I was referring to people who are happy to walk away from the club completely and not just not attend games. Not attending games can be down to preference, money, travel etc. I have no issue with fans who cannot/choose not to attend games, I have an issue with fans who change supporting clubs like picking a new t-shirt.

I can understand that you stick with the club through thick and thin but for us we've seen a manager litterally rip the heart of football away from us, and an owner litterally ripping the heart of the football club away from us. I can't understand why you would want to attend games. Ashley is laughing his arse off at everyone who walks into that stadium on a match day. I attend games in an attempt to support my team. Do you think Ashley would lose any money if Newcastle United went bust due to fans boycotting every fixture all season and we were relegated? Newcastle United would go bust, but Ashley would be in Barbados sitting on £50 notes. Not attending games does not hurt Mike Ashley one single ounce. May as well keep giving him money then.l to rip the p*ss out of the city and the club. Makes sense imo. And it's really worked the last few years If tickets were free, would you change your mind on attending games? You're not giving money to the club, but would have to go and support the team? That argument holds no substance with me. Bet these same people saying support the team where kicking off with Krul, booing the team and saying they should never wear the shirt. This thing about fans thinking players care drives me wild like. 90% of players merely play football to earn a living, there are sadly very few who actually care about the club they play for. But you can't really argue with it can you, if Man Utd offered you £325,000 a week... you'd play, but not give a toss about Man Utd.

I can understand that you stick with the club through thick and thin but for us we've seen a manager litterally rip the heart of football away from us, and an owner litterally ripping the heart of the football club away from us. I can't understand why you would want to attend games. Ashley is laughing his arse off at everyone who walks into that stadium on a match day. I attend games in an attempt to support my team. Do you think Ashley would lose any money if Newcastle United went bust due to fans boycotting every fixture all season and we were relegated? Newcastle United would go bust, but Ashley would be in Barbados sitting on £50 notes. Not attending games does not hurt Mike Ashley one single ounce. May as well keep giving him money then.l to rip the p*ss out of the city and the club. Makes sense imo. And it's really worked the last few years If tickets were free, would you change your mind on attending games? You're not giving money to the club, but would have to go and support the team? That argument holds no substance with me. What? You're giving money to him. "Have to go to support the team?" What do you mean by that? You are paying the guy money even though he's essentially ripped the heart out of this club and the city. How can you debate that? You didn't really answer my question though. Would you attend games if tickets were free? If 50k people attend or 5 people, it wont stop Mike Ashley fleecing the club for everything it has. Ticket sales are a mere drop in the ocean in terms of income for football clubs. Why don't you send a nasty email to Sky/BT Sports for giving Mike so much money?

I can understand that you stick with the club through thick and thin but for us we've seen a manager litterally rip the heart of football away from us, and an owner litterally ripping the heart of the football club away from us. I can't understand why you would want to attend games. Ashley is laughing his arse off at everyone who walks into that stadium on a match day. I attend games in an attempt to support my team. Do you think Ashley would lose any money if Newcastle United went bust due to fans boycotting every fixture all season and we were relegated? Newcastle United would go bust, but Ashley would be in Barbados sitting on £50 notes. Not attending games does not hurt Mike Ashley one single ounce. May as well keep giving him money then.l to rip the p*ss out of the city and the club. Makes sense imo. And it's really worked the last few years If tickets were free, would you change your mind on attending games? You're not giving money to the club, but would have to go and support the team? That argument holds no substance with me.

Just for you I'd love to see the club relegated. And if we were relegated, I'd still support the club. Completely disagree that because I refuse to run away from my club in its current state, I deserve my team to fail. Will you support us again in 40 years? Don't really understand your reasoning behind that, if we were relegated it'd be harder to sell us and we'd keep our unwanted players; hence longer Ashley/Gouff/Sammy Ameobi time. I support or did support an idea of NUFC that was representative of what the club was all about. Under Ashley this club bears no resemblance to that NUFC whatsoever, well except the no trophy thing. Therefore its easy for me not to support it and wish it burns in hell. Ashely's NUFC is to the real NUFC what MK Dons is to Wimbeldon AFC. A different f***ing entity. Thank god we aren't in Europe? f*** the cups? Mid-table? That's not even football never mind NUFC. I support and always will love the idea that is NUFC in the way it was intended to be and once was because I believe it will come back to me, but first we have to get rid of Ashley who is basically the iron curtain to freedom. Until then he and it can rot in hell, the more it burns the better so all those who support the c*** get what they deserve which is f*** all, the club we are seeing now. Me I have pride, I have principles, I have a desire to see an NUFC be more than an advertising tool, a thing for some man child and a day out for complete w*****s who go to the match and clap this s***. The point I was making in my post, was regarding the title of this thread. "I don't support Newcastle any more because I don't like Mike Ashley" "I don't support Newcastle any more because we lost to Sunderland again" The thread title reminds me of something I'd expect to see on a Chelsea forum if they never won anything for 40 years and all their plastic fans moved onto the new title winners. I'm not saying I support what is happening to the football club and I agree with most of your post - but to walk away completely? The MK Dons/Wimbledon is different, lets get it into prospective - we aren't a different club, we're being ran by an idiot. Rid of the idiot, rid of the problems (unless we get stuck with Leeds' fantastic new owner).

I can understand that you stick with the club through thick and thin but for us we've seen a manager litterally rip the heart of football away from us, and an owner litterally ripping the heart of the football club away from us. I can't understand why you would want to attend games. Ashley is laughing his arse off at everyone who walks into that stadium on a match day. I attend games in an attempt to support my team. Do you think Ashley would lose any money if Newcastle United went bust due to fans boycotting every fixture all season and we were relegated? Newcastle United would go bust, but Ashley would be in Barbados sitting on £50 notes. Not attending games does not hurt Mike Ashley one single ounce.

People are entitled to their opinion, but I struggle to see a way in which you can have an effective protest whilst sitting at SJP "supporting" the team. Do you have any suggestions as to how you'd carry out such a protest? The protests under the Milburn stand after games for example (not during the game inside the ground). Protesting in/outside Sports Direct stores. It is Mike Ashley we hate, not Newcastle United. Hence the reason I'd personally rather support my club but also rid my club of this idiot. It's a difficult one, that's for certain. I can understand people not wanting to do anything but support the club. Unfortunately Ashley and his real interest are now so utterly ingrained within NUFC it's difficult to separate the two. If all this campaign does is make journalists and the general public outside Newcastle ask more questions about our situation then it's worthwhile IMO. Completely agree. The last part hit the nail on the head for me. The thing that annoys me most at the moment is the club seems to get by without ever being asked a difficult question. If the campaign does that, it'll be a great success in my opinion.

Just for you I'd love to see the club relegated. And if we were relegated, I'd still support the club. Completely disagree that because I refuse to run away from my club in its current state, I deserve my team to fail. Will you support us again in 40 years? Don't really understand your reasoning behind that, if we were relegated it'd be harder to sell us and we'd keep our unwanted players; hence longer Ashley/Gouff/Sammy Ameobi time.

People are entitled to their opinion, but I struggle to see a way in which you can have an effective protest whilst sitting at SJP "supporting" the team. Do you have any suggestions as to how you'd carry out such a protest? The protests under the Milburn stand after games for example (not during the game inside the ground). Protesting in/outside Sports Direct stores. It is Mike Ashley we hate, not Newcastle United. Hence the reason I'd personally rather support my club but also rid my club of this idiot.

I've not read any of the previous posts in this thread, so apologies if this is not in line with the current chat. The subject of this thread is ridiculous, if our current situation deters you from supporting our club - good riddance. You should support the club; the owners, managers, staff and players all change (sometimes on a very regular basis) - but you should still stand/sit there for 90 minutes supporting the club. If you are happy to walk away because we have an owner you don't like at the minute, or a player you dislike, then it's a "cya" from me. No doubt many will disagree, but that's my personal feelings on the matter.

I didn't get behind the SackPardew campaign, due to my own opinions on the matter and the manner that protests were carried out. Personally I do not care who owns my club, who stands in the dugout, whether we play in League 1 or the Conference North - I'll still attend games to support my team. It's a bit like boo'ing at half time when it's 0-0 against the lesser teams, personally do not understand it at all. Completely agree that Ashley (and his group of friends/directors) is the problem with our club and I'm 100% behind getting rid of him. However, I don't believe standing in the ground boo'ing for 90 minutes or simply not turning up has any effect on the man and only results in demotivating the players. That being said, our atmosphere is awful at the moment and needs improving. I'm not saying "do nothing", definitely not, but the protests should be kept away from the field of play and in a way that would truly get effect.