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Oh I completely agree, but by restricting him to that budget we’d be restricting our ambition under him. Give the bloke a warchest and bring on Real Madrid.

Fucking hell

Much lower chance of losing due to VAR than losing due to incompetent reffing though Maybe, but I reckon the odds will be quite low for at least one team being knocked out of the competition directly due to a negative consequence of VAR. Probably multiple. Not really sure why you think that. I could see teams feeling aggrieved by soft but correct decisions being made alright Why I feel what? That there will be atleast one mistake that will cause a team to be knocked out? If so I think it's pretty much a given, but we'll see. I'm actually going to hoy a random figure out and say I'll drink my own piss if less than 4 teams are knocked out of the competition due to a negative consequence of VAR. Whether it be missing something for one side yet catching something for the opposition, or reversing a debatable decision that the ref had made only for the decision to still be debatable because - by the letter of the law - it's down to the referees interpretation. We now have about 10 referees watching the game each with their own interpretation of what is happening. Although I completely agree with you, need to quote that.

Not sure where we could position a screen at SJP where everyone could see it, for example. I’d imagine Man Utd may have similar difficulties. You’d not be able to see it from the back of the away end at Liverpool or Chelsea too, just off the top of my head.

Expect Rafa to get a McClaren sized budget, which wil just about keep him around but will limit the height of our ambitions.

Not sure anyone is stating their opinion as a fact.

Nice of them to start holding their awards ceremony in a local pub Proper League One already.

You mean like how Allardyce & Mourinho teams have been doing for the last 10 years? Teams already slow down games tactically when 1-0 up away from home. It's actually unbearable already. We can go back and forth here forever, but we can just agree to disagree on this topic Well no It’s nothing like that at all. There’s a difference from playing defensively to making the entire game stop while we watch the referee watch a TV screen. If I wanted to do that, I’d watch Gogglebox. See Hans’ points above too. But aye, more than happy to agree to disagree on this one.

Again, that system would never work because teams will just use their challenges tactically. Perfect way to slow the game down when you’re hanging onto a 1-0 lead away at Man Utd with minutes remaining, save all 3 challenges and keep breaking the play up by challenging any old decision.

I agree, but the golden goal was a big change, which was scrapped. As were some of the other minor changes which added time to a game, like needing to have a player stretchered off in a head collision, etc., (which I'm for, of course). What I'm saying is, football, and all sports, are literally games which are always evolving with time and circumstance. As much as I hate Star Wars, I'm gonna quote from it: "Do not fight the winds of change, Anakin..." None of those changes listed have anywhere near the level of impact or shittery as VAR. As I’ve said numerous times, the only way VAR would ever be acceptable to me is if it was as instant and clear as goalline technology. It never will be.

But none of those very minor changes mean I have to sit in the stadium for 5 minutes watching the referee look at a TV screen for an unknown reason.

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Majority of reports on Twitter say he was stabbed, an older chap too apparently that wasn’t involved in anything.

https://www.twitter.com/danroan/status/988849602999746561 Please take this down if it’s against the rules like. But the fan seriously injured appears to be the one flat out on the floor here. The other lad in the blue seemingly took a bit of a whack too.

Even if they made the sponsor's blue lettering black on a white background it would be bearable. It’s sorta the point of sponsorship though, having an advert that stands out I’m also not entirely sure they want their entire branding changed to different colours.

High error rate. Aye, every game has so many match defining errors that it’s impossible to enjoy the game.

It’s nowhere near as good as it used to be, imo.

Again, read what I put properly and you’ll see thomas and I agree on the stat I was discussing. We’re discussing and disagree on the interpretation of the data though. Fair enough, but I think your overall tone was unnecessarily aggressive when discussing a tech that's been used and nearly perfected across other sports. "VAR IS CRAP!" is an unnecessarily general statement that's nowhere near true. It can be perfected in those sports, because they are suitable for it. Football isn’t.

Again, read what I put properly and you’ll see thomas and I agree on the stat I was discussing. We’re discussing and disagree on the interpretation of the data though.

Aye Took me about 7 too.

Some terrible scenes before the game including fans carrying hammers as weapons and a Liverpool fan (tbc) being seriously assaulted. Really pisses me off like, just totally needless.

You’ve gotta expect an absolute pasting from Fulham now like Go on Mitro son.

Would be interested to see what data they are using to calculate that. But that’s not the point I was and still am making. The error rate of the referee still f***ing up and changing the decision incorrectly is 16%, which is ridiculous and adds to the point I made a few weeks ago where the referee on the pitch is influenced by the VAR referee as soon as they tell them to check a decision. It's not, though. The error rate goes down to 0.98% over 6.05% - even though there still is an error percentage in the decisions they make using VAR. The numbers they'll have used will be the decisions where VAR has been used vs decisions where VAR has not been used, clearly. I'm not a fan at all of VAR in the form it is currently being used, but I'll still not argue against it clearly being more correct than refs usually are. It's just used wrong and slows down games unnecessarily. A random stat on Reddit could be based on the square root of f*** all like As I said, if someone presents me with some random numbers, I’d like to see the actual data behind them. The difference between those %s could be based on 1000 decisions or 10 decisions, massively altering the impact. Stats on their own are worthless at times, without being put into context. I could tell you that Mitrovic has been our most successful striker this season with some stats and %’s, which doesn’t actually tell you the true story. Wrongfully changing 17 out of 105 decisions is shameful and further evidence that VAR should f*** off, imo. The only way I would ever accept it is if decisions were instant and there was a near enough 100% success rate in making a decision with it. Why slow the game down at all if there still remains a relatively high error rate with decisions made. It's not the overall error rate though VAR was USED TO CHECK A DECISION 1735 times 1631 out of 1735 it agreed (93.95%) 105 out of 1735 it overturned it (6.05%) 17 out of 105 (or 16% of 6%) were overturned incorrectly. Overall 17/1735 (0.98%) were overturned incorrectly. Again... I’m not talking above the overall error rate, I’m talking about the bit in bold, which is unacceptable. How do we know the person that checked these and came up with the number that are wrong got the decision that the decision was wrong correct? After all many of the laws of the game state 'if, in the opinion of the referee...' We don’t. Which is another reason VAR is crap, the fouls it attempts to make a decision on are very subjective.

Not perfection no, but that % is far too high to even consider slowing our game down even slightly, imo.

Would be interested to see what data they are using to calculate that. But that’s not the point I was and still am making. The error rate of the referee still fucking up and changing the decision incorrectly is 16%, which is ridiculous and adds to the point I made a few weeks ago where the referee on the pitch is influenced by the VAR referee as soon as they tell them to check a decision. It's not, though. The error rate goes down to 0.98% over 6.05% - even though there still is an error percentage in the decisions they make using VAR. The numbers they'll have used will be the decisions where VAR has been used vs decisions where VAR has not been used, clearly. I'm not a fan at all of VAR in the form it is currently being used, but I'll still not argue against it clearly being more correct than refs usually are. It's just used wrong and slows down games unnecessarily. A random stat on Reddit could be based on the square root of fuck all like As I said, if someone presents me with some random numbers, I’d like to see the actual data behind them. The difference between those %s could be based on 1000 decisions or 10 decisions, massively altering the impact. Stats on their own are worthless at times, without being put into context. I could tell you that Mitrovic has been our most successful striker this season with some stats and %’s, which doesn’t actually tell you the true story. Wrongfully changing 17 out of 105 decisions is shameful and further evidence that VAR should fuck off, imo. The only way I would ever accept it is if decisions were instant and there was a near enough 100% success rate in making a decision with it. Why slow the game down at all if there still remains a relatively high error rate with decisions made. It's not the overall error rate though VAR was USED TO CHECK A DECISION 1735 times 1631 out of 1735 it agreed (93.95%) 105 out of 1735 it overturned it (6.05%) 17 out of 105 (or 16% of 6%) were overturned incorrectly. Overall 17/1735 (0.98%) were overturned incorrectly. Again... I’m not talking above the overall error rate, I’m talking about the bit in bold, which is unacceptable.