HaydnNUFC

Don't get the super league theory tbh. Do we not already have one in the Champions League?

Ritchie didn't help him at all first half, mind. So often he was up against both Deulofeu and Holebas(?) together.

Was well up for it today, credit to him. Needs to keep it up.

They were by far the better side first half. After they hit the bar at the very start of the second half momentum was on our side, highlights on MotD don't show it that well. Surprised they didn't show the scrap towards the end, was wondering what happened.

Didn't hear any booing personally. If there was that's utterly embarrassing.

What other players need to be saying when asked about this.

Had an article about Lascelles with a picture of Hayden. Cheers. Didn't he say in the summer that Ashley should just give Rafa what he wants? After a pay rise though or perhaps a contractual thing similar to Ritson being allowed to wear the club crest so long as he doesn't bad mouth Mike as well doesn't make this absolutely reek at all.

What did that now deleted tweet say?

Aye, he can piss off with that. Fans have been there, rightly or wrongly, at every game thus far and we still haven't won.

Lascelles has met Ashley like, what, once? Keegan said that he initially liked Ashley. But like Wullie says the bonuses fracas and now these comments screams out that he's been told/paid/whatever to say that. And that fucking stinks. The comments though, wish the players would just dodge or deflect. Rafa included.

It's most likely revised financial terms/wages or whatever. Given that he signed a contract last year that would've ran to 2023 making him sign another 6 year deal to maximise his transfer fee doesn't make that much sense. But nothing does under Ashley.

For positive: knows something regarding Rafa, genuinely wants to settle here with his family Negative: Ashley still owns the club

What the hell?

Aye. Phrase coined by the mackems and presumably used by the idiots who'd still turn up to games to sit in silence and boo substitutions support the team if Rafa is forced out because of Ashley and is replaced by a lickspittle-chancer.

I know I keep stating the point but the managers comments this week certainly have not helped mind. No but he can't exactly say much else to the press. The Chronicle reporting it as of he is attacking the thought of a boycott which I don't think he necessarily is makes me question whose side they're on tbh. Of course he isn't going to say that we should boycott the game.

Don't get those people. They will have missed games before due to work, holidays or whatever. This is just 1 game ffs, just don't go.

Both have a chopper and own football clubs, one is great and spends money, the other is a utter tosser who has deliberately sabotaged his own club. Pretty easy to see the relation really. Comparisons to Ashley are understandable given how he seems to be a polar opposite owner to Vichnai, but social norms dictate that at a time when people are upset, want to grieve, or pay their respects, it's poor taste to be using tragedies like this to make a point or air your own grievances against someone or something else not directly related to the incident. On an internet forum that translates to keeping Ashley comparisons out of this thread. Even if you don't agree with those social norms, as I do, it's the way it is - using tragedies to point score will raise ire and disgust. Aye totally agree for the reasons you so well stated. Unfortunately this desperately sad accident was a gift horse for idiots on social media, sometimes i wonder if people even care about what they say or do anymore. The online disinhibtion effect. It's everywhere now.

I can't see us staying down. He'll bring in one of his bell end mates as manager who is garbage but okay enough at Championship level. He'll loan the club more cash for a transfer and wage budget. We'll come back up with increased debt to Ashley and the cycle starts again. The club will just be incredibly easier to despise with no Rafa. For us to stay down we'll all have to pray that we are shite. Like Stoke this year or Villa in years gone by.

I agree with ElCid here tbh. It's the Ashley cycle. - 2+ seasons in PL - Relegation - Ashley 'loans' the club more money - Debt to fat Ash has now increased - Promotion - Penny pinching in the PL - Repeat He'll sell when he wants to sell, it's the MG's and more importantly us fans' job to make his life as owner as miserable as possible by protests and attacking his business(es) to bring that day closer.

Yeah, but 'waste of time' ffs. How some can think that is genuinely beyond me. I'd much rather try my bollocks off and fail than sit there and take it and watch that horrid bastard kill this club more than he already has.

Only v Chelsea and Man City did we play in the incredibly negative way the media love to stick the boot on our throat for. Against Tottenham we deserved a point at least, though the lack of quality and thus lack of efficiency in our transition and final pass in the last third has been gaping in the 0-0s. I do agree with your point on the whole but I personally think it's due to results mixed with horrid performances (Leicester, second half v Arsenal) and the rancid atmosphere about the club atm. Had the pen gone in at Cardiff I think we'd be looking at a totally different mood around the place.

Similar problems were still rearing their head in some games in that run and even after it. Burnley (a) L 0-1 Bournemouth (h) L 0-1 Everton (h) L 0-1 Arsenal (a) L 0-1 Brighton (h) D 0-0 Swansea (h) D 1-1 We also got punished like fuck at home to Watford, away at Man United and at Chelsea for defensive errors. That mixed with a misfiring forward line, despite scoring in those two away games, is a similar issue to now.

We won't be the next Derby. I know it's really easy to feel that way because things are absolutely rancid atm, just as they were when we had that run November-December last year when we went winless in 9, losing 5 home games on the bounce, and not winning a home match between October and February last season. A spawny win like West Ham away last year will come from nowhere and end the run, could be Saturday, could be Bournemouth, who the hell knows. It all feels worse than then because we had the (misleading) hope of the Staveley takeover. Now, we've got nowt and that's feeding onto the pitch. That is down to the fat cunt and his mates at the top.