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Whenever the day comes it should forever be known on this forum as Jinky Jim[/member] day.

I think once the games are officially announced as bcd/voided they’ll put out something about refunds. Of course it would have been helpful if they’d just said this was the case two month ago...

No

Not even some Donnay socks.

Oliver seems to have a very low threshold for something being ‘classy’... Not to say it’s not obviously the right thing to do by Everton, it’s just that they’ve probably only done something that will become inescapable in a week a or so.

Rafa had the walls painted.

If you want positivity, listen to the podcast with Kieran Maguire that’s been posted in the other thread.

Think Maguire summarises pretty well, without really offering anything new. You can’t help but feel positive after listening IMO.

Probably a good example of why .com rarely offer an opinion on speculation. Even here where they’ve obviously been tipped off by someone they trust, it still hasn’t come through as expected.

Waugh's article this morningabout signing the keeper from Motherwell suggests everything is still on track.

Aye I’ve no examples but defo over last few years they’ve put up what they ‘understand’ and it’s been wrong. Disagree there. Certainly in recent times. what have they said that’s right in recent terms? Again my memory is shit for examples but I’m sure there was something about a previous takeover and a previous managerial appointment that was both wrong. Doesn’t really matter in any case. Of course I hope they are right That's the thing, they don't really say much in terms of their own opinions. Obviously they'll have reported the last 'takeover' and relaid what the press were reporting, but that's what they do generally. As I say, they very rarely go out on a limb like this, almost saying they've been told something directly.

I honestly can't think of any recent examples of this being the case? They just hardly use terms such as "we understand". They very rarely claim to be any kind of ITK these days.

Aye I’ve no examples but defo over last few years they’ve put up what they ‘understand’ and it’s been wrong. Disagree there. Certainly in recent times.

Well now they rarely, if ever, comment on transfer/takeover speculation other than if stuff is being reported very strongly, so for them to say what they have, indicates they've been told from someone they trust.

It's going to take so time to heal the divisions he's caused. It won't be a quick process either, as whatever they decide to regarding ST's there'll be a bit of hoo-har and certain people will feel hard done by. But we'll get there. One day we'll all be friends again....

Where has he said this? Twitter - "It's a big week..." to quote him exactly

I think they’ve definitely got a contact within the club at a lower level. Often getting reports on BCD Reserve or junior matches. Could be that club staff have been told?

They wouldn’t say that unless they’d been given the nod by a contact. Pretty significant IMO. They have been pouring cold water on it all the way through and basically not commenting on it much at all. I think, like everybody else, they were just sick of all the false dawns, and as they probably didn’t have any first hand info they just really stated the bare minimum. So for them to now say it’s done, they must have been told by someone in a position to know.

They wouldn’t say that unless they’d been given the nod by a contact. Pretty significant IMO.

That was my feeling initially. But if you do that you’re probably going going to have to cancel 20/21 season altogether. Then the whole financial situation gets ridiculous.

I don't care if it's Qatar releasing the story. It's one we should be discussing seriously. It's not enough to simply acknowledge wrong-doing. A man was murdered for criticising a regime. That does not deserve death. Why should we ? It’s got nothing to do with football, if your going to attach the murder to the purchase of the club then also discuss it in relation to live nation, Warner brothers and other Saudi purchases. No one is disputing the murder is horrendous, it’s the hypocrisy that the sale of nufc should be stopped whilst all these other deals go throughout without a murmur. The one thing this deal won’t be stopped on is human rights, it would put the premier league at odds with the policy of the U.K. government. What is blatantly happening here is human rights lawyers are using the high profile nature of this sale to gain publicity, as they know the Saudis buying stakes in other companies just doesn’t draw the same attention. You can’t blame them for this as this is their job, however what I strongly object to is the notion that we should sacrifice the chance of a lifetime for our city and club, If this was blocked these same people would move on to their next cause and wouldn’t give a s%#t about us. So whilst I acknowledge and understand the human rights aspect, ths hypocrisy expecting us to be line drawn in the sand with Saudis doesn’t wash with me and many others. Despite my dislike of the practices of this kind of regime, I have to admit to myself that I hope the sale goes through. Of course there's a strong element of hypocrisy and double standards there, but I don't think it's worse than those who turn a blind eye to the close commercial relationship and military alliance that we have with the Saudis, but who indulge in outrage when someone else's football team looks like profiting. However, I don't think we should tell ourselves that we can be an agent for change in that country by giving them a little lecture whilst at the same time taking their money. That feels like a piece of self-deceit. One thing I do genuinely believe, though I may be wrong, is that this kind of step by the Saudis represents a move, however slight, towards a closer cultural relationship with the West, and therefore ultimately to other reforms, which I think have already begun in that country, albeit on a modest scale. Given the chaos that's resulted in that part of the world when other countries have sought to reform, it's perhaps better that change is slow and incremental, to avoid a messy revolution that end up making the situation worse. Frankly, I don't think the world can afford to have an Ayatollah taking charge there. I think you’re last paragraph there raises a very interesting point. Essentially is purchase just part of a broader ‘sportswashing’ policy, or is it part of a gradual cultural change within SA? Actually what Delaney and Neville went back and forth with on Twitter yesterday. Depending on your viewpoint you could argue either way, but there’s probably not really going to be an answer for another 10 years or so. A lot of fans (me included I suspect) probably wouldn’t care if they brought success and investment to the club/region, but an interesting point none the less.

It was known but he and his pal made out that they were definitely going to pay it back. Now it seems that may not be the case.

Amanda Staveley, the Reuben brothers and PIF.

I’m not sure many, if any, have actually refunded yet, but I believe some/most have put out communication as to the fact refunds will given if/when games are voided or played BCD. Obviously we’re not doing communication at the minute.

Fixed Well, yeah. There is that. Aaaaaaand that's bollocks. Abysmal ffs. Utterly ludicrous. I honestly think some of the latter day fans really don't know the true meaning of abysmal, as far a footballers go. Tbf they'll have seen Emmanuel Riviere playing up front on his own, so they should had a good base to work with...